Finding Normal Coordinates for a Coupled Degenerate System

In summary, the question is about calculating a propagator for a coupled (degenerate) system. The fields/coordinates involved are ψ and χ, and the term in question is C1 ψ ∆ χ + C2 ψ², which can also be written as - C1 (∇ψ) (∇χ) + C2 ψ² due to integration by parts. The cinetic term can be decoupled by using sum and difference coordinates, but this also affects the mass term. It is unclear whether normal coordinates exist in this case, and the asker is seeking help to find a propagator.
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So now it's time for me also to ask a question :)

Homework Statement



I want to calculate a propagator for a coupled (degenerate) system, but somehow it's not possible to find normal coordinates. Maybe they don't exist, could be possible, it's been a time since I did that stuff.

Homework Equations



C1, C2 are constant, the fields/coordinates are ψ and χ.

The term in question is C1 ψ ∆ χ + C2 ψ², but it's under an integral sign and integration by parts is permissible. So one could also write - C1 (∇ψ) (∇χ) + C2 ψ², for example.


The Attempt at a Solution



The cinetic term decouples in a pretty obvious way by using sum and difference coordinates, but this mixes the mass term.

I was under the impression that one can always find normal coordinates, but maybe I'm wrong.
 
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However, I'm not sure how to proceed in this case in order to find a propagator. Can anyone help me out?
 

FAQ: Finding Normal Coordinates for a Coupled Degenerate System

What are normal coordinates?

Normal coordinates are a set of coordinates used to describe the motion of a system that is undergoing small oscillations around a stable equilibrium point. They are typically chosen to simplify the equations of motion and make it easier to analyze the system's behavior.

Why do we use normal coordinates?

We use normal coordinates because they can simplify the equations of motion for a system undergoing small oscillations, making it easier to analyze and understand the system's behavior. They also allow us to better visualize the motion of the system by breaking it down into different modes of oscillation.

How do you find normal coordinates?

To find normal coordinates, we first need to determine the equilibrium or rest position of the system. Then, we use the equations of motion to find the coordinates that will simplify the equations and remove any cross-terms. These coordinates are known as normal coordinates.

What are the advantages of using normal coordinates?

The main advantage of using normal coordinates is that they simplify the equations of motion for a system undergoing small oscillations. This makes it easier to analyze and understand the behavior of the system. Additionally, normal coordinates can help us identify specific modes of oscillation and their corresponding frequencies within the system.

Can normal coordinates be used for any system?

Normal coordinates can be used for any system that is undergoing small oscillations around a stable equilibrium point. This includes physical systems such as pendulums, springs, and molecular vibrations. However, they may not be as useful for systems that exhibit large oscillations or chaotic behavior.

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