Finding points of non-differentiability

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In summary, The conversation is discussing the points of non-differentiability of sums, products, and composites of functions. It is mentioned that if f and g are differentiable on an interval, then f+g and fg are also differentiable on that interval. However, there is uncertainty about how to determine the points of non-differentiability of f+g or fg or fog. An example is given using the function |x||x| which illustrates that the set of non-differentiable functions is not well-behaved under addition and multiplication. The conversation concludes by suggesting that it may be better to study "nice" functions first, such as those that are continuous and differentiable.
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Hey friends! I am having a slight confusion as to finding the points of non differentiability of sum, product and composite of functions.
Consider the functions f and g. If f is differentiable on an interval and so is g, then this interval comes under the domain of f+g, and f+g is also differentiable on this interval. Similarly, for product... Now if we want to find the points of non-differentiability of f+g, we can't straightaway write all the points not included in the above interval, since we know that the function f+g is differentiable on that interval, but there is no comment about the differentiability at other points. Then how can we use this rule to find the points of non-differentiability of f+g or fg or fog?
For example, consider the function: |x||x|. Now this is fg, f:|x| & g:|x|. f, g are differentiable on all real numbers except 0. However, from the rule fg is differentiable on all R-{0}, which is true BUT NOT ONLY ON R-{0}, also at 0. Clearly we are unable to exploit the rule for the required purpose here!
 
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There is no way. Let f be any function (even nowhere differentiable) and g = 1-f, then f+g is everywhere differentiable. Similar for product, let f (never 0) and g = 1/f.
 
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the above example should convince you that the set of "non-differentiable functions" (even if they are only non-differentiable at a finite set of points) is poorly behaved with respect to addition and multiplication (pointwise) of functions.

this suggests that perhaps they aren't very good objects of study, if we want to consider sums and products of functions (the sums and products have different properties then the functions we started out with).

functions involving absolute value can be problemmatic to differentiate, which is unfortunate, since it means that the "distance" function isn't differentiable along the line x = y. "jagged" objects (such as manifolds with corners, or a typical (line-connected) plot of stock prices over time, for example) don't lend themselves well to analysis, and can often display "unpredictable" behavior.

what is one to do?

well, we study the "nice" functions first. continuous is good, differentiable is better. we've gotten a lot of mileage from this "oversimplification", because many physical relationships seem to act in "well-behaved" ways. linear approximations (even though often vastly over-simplified) often work well "in the short-term", and we have come to understand those very well.

in other words: walking first, running and jumping later on.
 

FAQ: Finding points of non-differentiability

What is a point of non-differentiability?

A point of non-differentiability is a point on a function where the derivative does not exist. This means that the slope of the tangent line at that point is undefined, and the function is not smooth or continuous at that point.

How do you find points of non-differentiability?

To find points of non-differentiability, you need to take the derivative of the function and then look for points where the derivative is undefined or does not exist. This can be done by finding points where the function is not continuous, has sharp corners, or has vertical tangents.

Why are points of non-differentiability important?

Points of non-differentiability are important because they indicate places where a function is not smooth or continuous. This can help identify potential problems with the function or make it easier to find critical points, which are points where the derivative is equal to zero.

How can you determine if a function is differentiable at a point?

A function is differentiable at a point if the derivative exists at that point. This means that the function is continuous and has a well-defined tangent line at that point. If the derivative does not exist at a point, then the function is not differentiable at that point.

Can a function have multiple points of non-differentiability?

Yes, a function can have multiple points of non-differentiability. This can happen when a function has sharp corners or breaks in continuity at multiple points. It is important to identify and analyze all points of non-differentiability in order to fully understand the behavior of the function.

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