Finding rate of relativistic work, special relativity.

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The discussion focuses on deriving the expression for the rate of relativistic work, specifically showing that dE/dt equals m0/(1-u^2)^(3/2) multiplied by u and du/dt. Participants clarify the use of relativistic mass, m(u), and its relationship to rest mass, m0, and velocity, u. There is confusion regarding the treatment of the dot product in the context of velocity and acceleration, with suggestions that it should be treated as a simple multiplication. The problem's statement is noted to be ambiguous, leading to differing interpretations of the variables involved. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the importance of correctly applying the principles of special relativity in the derivation.
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Hello all,

Homework Statement


Given \frac{dE}{dt}=\frac{d(m(u))}{dt}\cdot u
show that \frac{dE}{dt}=\frac{m_0}{(1-u^2)^{\frac{3}{2}}}u\frac{du}{dt}
where u is velocity, m(u) is relativistic mass, and m_0 is rest mass.

Homework Equations


m(u)=\frac{m_0}{\sqrt{1-u^2}}

The Attempt at a Solution


Substituting in m(u) gives \frac{dE}{dt} = \frac{d}{dt}(\frac{m_0}{\sqrt{1-u^2}})\cdot u
Using the chain rule
= \frac{d}{du}(\frac{m_0}{\sqrt{1-u^2}})\frac{du}{dt}\cdot u
= \frac{m_0 u}{(1-u^2)^{3/2}}\frac{du}{dt} \cdot u
From here I get into trouble. My first thought was since u should be parallel to \frac{du}{dt} the dot product just becomes multiplication, but then there's an extra u factor. Any help from here would be greatly appreciated.
 
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The problem statement is ambiguous. The quantity in parenthesis should be written as mu, and not m(u). More precisely, it should be moγu.
 
I don't think the relativistic mass should be a vector, so that dot must be just an ordinary product between two scalars. I do agree that the problem seems a little strange.
 
That makes much more sense, thanks for the help guys
 
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