Finding the Correct Solution to an Integral in Quantum Mechanics

In summary: I'll get back to this eventually.In summary, the conversation discusses an attempt to solve a given integral using different approaches. The first approach results in a solution that is slightly different from the solution given in a textbook, leading to a discussion on how to check for errors and determine the correct solution. The conversation ends with the acknowledgement that the integral is a definite integral, so differentiating the textbook's solution will naturally give zero.
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Homework Statement


I recently tried to do the following integral:
an = ∫√(2/a) sin(n∏x/a) cosh(x) dx
x=0 to x=a

Homework Equations


an = ∫√(2/a) sin(βx) cosh(x) dx
β = n∏/a
sin(βx) = ½i(eiβx – e-iβx)
cosh(x) = ½(ex + e-x)

The Attempt at a Solution



an = ¼ i √(2/a)∫ (eiβx – e-iβx) (ex + e-x)

after all is said and done, I get;

an = √(2/a)[(a2sin(n∏)sinh(a) – acos(n∏)cosh(a) + n∏a)/(n22 + a2)]


The text, “Quantum Mechanics Demystified”, however, gets;

an = √(2/a)[a(n∏cos(n∏)cosh(a) + sin(n∏)sinh(a))/( n22 + a2)]

Which is correct? And why?


 
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jbowers9 said:

Homework Statement


I recently tried to do the following integral:
an = ∫√(2/a) sin(n∏x/a) cosh(x) dx
x=0 to x=a

Homework Equations


an = ∫√(2/a) sin(βx) cosh(x) dx
β = n∏/a
sin(βx) = ½i(eiβx – e-iβx)
cosh(x) = ½(ex – e-x)

The Attempt at a Solution



an = ¼ i √(2/a)∫ (eiβx – e-iβx) (ex – e-x)

after all is said and done, I get;

an = √(2/a)[(a2sin(n∏)sinh(a) – acos(n∏)cosh(a) + n∏a)/(n22 + a2)]


The text, “Quantum Mechanics Demystified”, however, gets;

an = √(2/a)[a(n∏cos(n∏)cosh(a) + sin(n∏)sinh(a))/( n22 + a2)]

Which is correct? And why?

Your approach is the one I would take, so here is what I would do:

Check your work to see if you can find any errors.
Take the derivative of your result. Do you get the integrand?
Take the derivative of the book's result. Do you get the integrand?
If the answers to both questions are yes, the two antiderivatives are equal or differ by a constant.
If one answer is yes and the other is no, the result from the "yes" answer is almost surely correct and the other is incorrect. It's even possible that the answer in the book is wrong.
 
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jbowers9 said:

Homework Statement


I recently tried to do the following integral:
an = ∫√(2/a) sin(n∏x/a) cosh(x) dx
x=0 to x=a

The Attempt at a Solution



I get;

an = √(2/a)[(a2sin(n∏)sinh(a) – acos(n∏)cosh(a) + n∏a)/(n22 + a2)]

If you've written the Integral correctly, then your solution is closer than the one from the text; it should have an aSin(...) term instead of an a2Sin(...)...Of course, if n is an integer then the sin (n*pi) term is zero and cos(n*pi)=(-1)n.

So, are you sure you are evaluating the correct integral?
 
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Mark44 said:
Your approach is the one I would take, so here is what I would do:

Check your work to see if you can find any errors.
Take the derivative of your result. Do you get the integrand?
Take the derivative of the book's result. Do you get the integrand?
If the answers to both questions are yes, the two antiderivatives are equal or differ by a constant.
If one answer is yes and the other is no, the result from the "yes" answer is almost surely correct and the other is incorrect. It's even possible that the answer in the book is wrong.

Usually these are good strategies for checking a solution, but in this case the integral is a definite integral, so differentiating the textbook's solution will naturally give zero.
 
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I made an error transcribing the above and corrected the cosh(x) term. I've redone it 3 times and still get my results.
 

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