Finding the equation of a plane

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In summary, the conversation is about finding the equation of a plane that is tangential to a given surface at the point where z is at its maximum value. The suggested method is to find the maximum point by setting the gradient of z equal to 0, and then using partial derivatives to find the equation of the plane. The conversation also includes some confusion and questions about the process.
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This isn't actually a homework question, but I'm revising for my resits and can't do this past paper question. And of course if i don't figure out how to do it it will obviously come up on the exam

A plane is tangential to the surface xexp(-x^2 - y^2) - z = 0 at the point where z takes on its maximum value. Find the equation of the plane

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I think I have to find where z is at its maximum and then find the normal to the tangent at that point to enable me to write the plane equation in the form r.n=0
z will be at it's maximum when xexp(-x^2 - y^2) is at its maximum but i don't know when that will be?
 
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Do you know how to find the maximum of a function?
 
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As NateTG suggested, first find the maximum point by setting the gradient of z equal to 0. Of course, the tangent plane at a maximum (or minimum) is parallel to the xy-plane, just as the tangent line at a maximum (or minimum) of y= f(x), in two dimensions, is parallel to the x-axis.
 
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so since z = x exp(-x^2 - y^2) if i differentiate this and set it to zero i should get my point. But what do i differentiate z with respect to since there's x and y in the function.
Since I'm trying to find the equation of the plane does that just mean that it's a plane parallel to the x-y axis?
 
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Tiffw-s88 said:
so since z = x exp(-x^2 - y^2) if i differentiate this and set it to zero i should get my point. But what do i differentiate z with respect to since there's x and y in the function.
Since I'm trying to find the equation of the plane does that just mean that it's a plane parallel to the x-y axis?

Actually, it's parallel to the x-y plane.

Since you're apparently not familiar with partial derivatives, I'd suggest looking at
[tex]x e^{-x^2-y^2}[/tex]
and trying to find what [itex]y[/itex] is at the maximum by inspection.
 
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oops yeh i meant plane

i am familiar with partial derivatives.

so the partial derivative wrt x is -2x^2[exp(-x^2-y^2)] + exp(-x^2-y^2)
and wrt y is -2y^2[exp(-x^2-y^2)]

but I'm still confused as to where I'm going with this, i don't really get the bigger picture of what I'm trying to do
 
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If you are at a maximum point, the partial derivatives wrt x and y will both vanish.
 
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ok now I'm really confused. how do you recommend i start this question as i don't seem to be getting anywhere with my current route =(
 
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Just set your two partial derivatives equal to zero. That's two equations in two unknowns, x and y. Once you've found your critical points test them to see if you can find which one could give you a maximum for z.
 

FAQ: Finding the equation of a plane

What is the equation of a plane?

The equation of a plane is a mathematical representation of a flat, two-dimensional surface in three-dimensional space. It is typically written in the form of Ax + By + Cz + D = 0, where A, B, and C are the coefficients of the x, y, and z variables, and D is a constant.

How do you find the equation of a plane given three points?

To find the equation of a plane given three points, you can use the point-normal form of the plane equation. First, calculate the vector between two of the points. Then, calculate the cross product of that vector and the vector between the third point and one of the previous points. This cross product will be the normal vector to the plane. Finally, plug in one of the points and the normal vector into the point-normal form equation: (x-x0)·n = 0, where x0 is the point and n is the normal vector.

What is the difference between the point-normal form and the standard form of a plane equation?

The point-normal form of a plane equation is (x-x0)·n = 0, where x0 is a point on the plane and n is the normal vector. The standard form of a plane equation is Ax + By + Cz + D = 0, where A, B, and C are the coefficients of the x, y, and z variables, and D is a constant. The main difference is that the point-normal form uses a specific point and a vector normal to the plane, while the standard form uses general coefficients for the variables.

Can you find the equation of a plane if you only have two points?

No, you cannot find the equation of a plane with only two points. This is because there are infinitely many planes that can pass through two points in three-dimensional space. However, if you have a point and a vector normal to the plane, you can find the equation using the point-normal form as described above.

How is the equation of a plane used in real-world applications?

The equation of a plane is used in many real-world applications, such as engineering, physics, and computer graphics. In engineering, it is used to model the surfaces of objects and structures. In physics, it is used to describe the behavior of waves and electromagnetic fields. In computer graphics, it is used to render 3D images and animations. It is a fundamental concept in mathematics that has numerous practical applications.

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