Finding the exact length of the curve (II)

In general, $\sqrt{a+b} \ne \sqrt a + \sqrt b$, so equation (2) is not correct. This is why your solution is not valid and you cannot simply split the integral into two parts as you did. Instead, you need to use the correct formula for integrating $\sqrt{1 + (9\sqrt{x})^2}$.
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shamieh
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Find the exact length of the curve

$0 \le x \le 1$

\(\displaystyle y = 1 + 6x^{\frac{3}{2}}\) <-- If you can't read this, the exponent is \(\displaystyle \frac{3}{2}\)

\(\displaystyle
\therefore y' = 9\sqrt{x}\)

\(\displaystyle \int ^1_0 \sqrt{1 + (9\sqrt{x})^2} \, dx\)

\(\displaystyle = \int ^1_0 \sqrt{1 + 81x} \, dx\)

\(\displaystyle
= \int^1_0 1 + 9\sqrt{x} \, dx\)

Now can't I just split the two integrals separately to obtain:

\(\displaystyle x + 6x^{\frac{3}{2}} |^1_0 \) <-- If you can't read this, the exponent is \(\displaystyle \frac{3}{2}\)

Thus getting: \(\displaystyle 1 + 6 = 7? \)
 
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shamieh said:
Find the exact length of the curve

\(\displaystyle y = 1 + 6x^{\frac{3}{2}}\) <-- If you can't read this, the exponent is \(\displaystyle \frac{3}{2}\)

\(\displaystyle
\therefore y' = 9\sqrt{x}\)

\(\displaystyle \int ^1_0 \sqrt{1 + (9\sqrt{x})^2} \, dx\)

\(\displaystyle = \int ^1_0 \sqrt{1 + 81x} \, dx\)

\(\displaystyle
= \int^1_0 1 + 9\sqrt{x} \, dx\)

Now can't I just split the two integrals separately to obtain:

\(\displaystyle x + 6x^{\frac{3}{2}} |^1_0 \) <-- If you can't read this, the exponent is \(\displaystyle \frac{3}{2}\)

Thus getting: \(\displaystyle 1 + 6 = 7? \)

There is a little questionable point because $\displaystyle \sqrt{1 + 81\ x} \ne 1 + 9\sqrt{x}$...

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$
 
  • #3
chisigma said:
There is a little questionable point because $\displaystyle \sqrt{1 + 81\ x} \ne 1 + 9\sqrt{x}$...

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$

How is that \(\displaystyle \ne\) ?

\(\displaystyle \sqrt{1} = 1\) , \(\displaystyle \sqrt{81} = 9 \), \(\displaystyle \sqrt{x} = \sqrt{x}\)
 
  • #4
shamieh said:
How is that \(\displaystyle \ne\) ?

\(\displaystyle \sqrt{1} = 1\) , \(\displaystyle \sqrt{81} = 9 \), \(\displaystyle \sqrt{x} = \sqrt{x}\)

The symbol $\ne$ means 'not equal to'...

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$
 
  • #5
chisigma said:
The symbol $\ne$ means 'not equal to'...

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$

I understand what the symbol means, my question is tho, why is it \(\displaystyle \ne\) to the solution i proposed... \(\displaystyle \sqrt{x}\) is just itself still \(\displaystyle \sqrt{x}\) all we did was square x to make it \(\displaystyle \sqrt{x}\) . How can you say that x square rooted isn't = to \(\displaystyle \sqrt{x}\)

What am I not seeing here?

because if we have x then decide to square root x , we will just end up with \(\displaystyle \sqrt{x}\)
 
  • #6
What I meant to say is that You wrote something like...

$\displaystyle \int_{0}^{1} \sqrt{1 + 81\ x}\ dx = \int_{0}^{1} (1 + 9\ \sqrt{x})\ dx\ (1)$

... but it isn't true because [as You can easily verify...] for $0 < x \le 1$ is...

$\displaystyle \sqrt{1 + 81\ x} \ne 1 + 9\ \sqrt{x}\ (2)$

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$
 
  • #7
... in other words, it is NOT TRUE that $\sqrt{a+b} = \sqrt a + \sqrt b$.
 

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