Finding the minimal polynomial of an irrational over Q

In summary, the minimal polynomial of a, where a = (1+(3)^1/2)^1/2, over Q is (x-a)(x-b)(x-c)(x-d), where a = sqrt(1+sqrt(3)), b = sqrt(1-sqrt(3)), c = -sqrt(1-sqrt(3)), and d = -sqrt(1+sqrt(3)). Another approach is to isolate 3 in the equation for a and use the minimal polynomial of 3, x-3, to find the minimal polynomial of a.
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Let a = (1+(3)^1/2)^1/2. Find the minimal polynomial of a over Q.

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Maybe the first thing to realize is that Q(a):Q is probably going to be 4, in order to get rid of both of the square roots in the expression. I also suspect that +/-(3)^1/2 will be roots of the minimal polynomial, as Q(a):Q = [Q(a):Q((3)^1/2)]*[Q(3^1/2):Q]. I do not know where to go from here, any advice PF?
 
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$$a=\sqrt{1+\sqrt{3}}$$
so your on the right track looking for 4 conjugates
consider all sign variations of square roots
$$\pm\sqrt{1\pm\sqrt{3}}$$
the minimum polynomial will be
(x-a)(x-b)(x-c)(x-d)
where a,b,c,d are the four conjugates
$$a=\sqrt{1+\sqrt{3}}\\
b=\sqrt{1-\sqrt{3}}\\
c=-\sqrt{1-\sqrt{3}}\\
d=-\sqrt{1+\sqrt{3}}\\$$
another possibly easier approach is to isolate 3 in your equation for a
the minimal polynomial of 3 is
x-3
so
f(a)-3
is the minimal polynomial of a if f(a) is 3 in terms of a
 
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FAQ: Finding the minimal polynomial of an irrational over Q

1. What is the definition of a minimal polynomial?

A minimal polynomial is a polynomial with integer coefficients that has the smallest degree and evaluates to zero when the given irrational number is substituted in for the variable.

2. Why is it important to find the minimal polynomial of an irrational over Q?

Finding the minimal polynomial of an irrational over Q is important because it helps us understand the properties and relationships of irrational numbers, and it allows us to perform further calculations and manipulations with these numbers.

3. How do you find the minimal polynomial of an irrational over Q?

To find the minimal polynomial of an irrational over Q, we start by expressing the irrational number as a root of a polynomial with rational coefficients. Then, we use various methods such as the rational root theorem and long division to simplify the polynomial and determine its minimal form.

4. Can every irrational number be expressed as a root of a polynomial with rational coefficients?

No, not every irrational number can be expressed as a root of a polynomial with rational coefficients. For example, numbers like pi and e are transcendental, meaning they cannot be expressed as roots of any polynomial with rational coefficients.

5. How is finding the minimal polynomial of an irrational over Q related to algebraic numbers?

Finding the minimal polynomial of an irrational over Q is closely related to the concept of algebraic numbers, which are numbers that can be expressed as roots of polynomials with rational coefficients. The minimal polynomial of an irrational over Q is the polynomial that represents the smallest degree algebraic number that is equal to the given irrational number.

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