Finding the Phase Angle for a Differential Equation Solution

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In summary, the conversation is about finding a solution to a differential equation. The solution involves putting it in the form of Asin(wt + phi) and the person is having trouble finding the correct value for the phase angle. They have tried different methods but none of them have given the correct answer. They are seeking help to find the correct value, which is 3.6052.
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Homework Statement



This is a solutuion to a differential equation I've solved:

[tex] -cos(\sqrt(2)t) - 2sin(\sqrt(2)t) [/tex]

I've been asked to put it in the form:

[tex] Asin(wt + phi) [/tex]


Homework Equations



[tex] A= sqrt(-1^2 + -2^2) [/tex]

[tex] phi = sin^{-1}phi = \frac{c1}{A} [/tex]
[tex] phi = cos^{-1} phi = \frac{c2}{A} [/tex]
and
[tex] phi = tan^{-1} phi = \frac{c1}{c2} [/tex]


The Attempt at a Solution




A = 5

[tex] phi = sin^{-1}phi = \frac{-1}{\sqrt(5)} [/tex]
[tex] phi = -0.4636[/tex]

[tex] phi = cos^{-1} phi = \frac{-2}{\sqrt(5)} [/tex]
[tex] phi = 2.678[/tex]

and
[tex] phi = tan^{-1} phi = \frac{-1}{-2} [/tex]
[tex] phi = 0.4636[/tex]

Can you help with the phase angle? (3 different answers - none of which are correct)

The book has 3.6052 which I see is pi + 0.4636.

Thanks
-Sparky
 
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Sparky_ said:
A = 5
A isn't 5. You miswrote your answer here, despite having found the correct one.

Sparky_ said:
[tex] \phi = sin^{-1}\phi = \frac{-1}{\sqrt(5)} [/tex]
[tex] \phi = -0.4636[/tex]

[tex] \phi = cos^{-1} \phi = \frac{-2}{\sqrt(5)} [/tex]
[tex] \phi = 2.678[/tex]

The "basic angle" (do you use that term? I don't know if this is the proper term) of [tex]\phi[/tex] is 0.4636.

[tex]sin \ \phi = -\frac{1}{\sqrt{5}}[/tex] Are you familiar with the trigonometric quadrants ASTC, where A is the top right hand quadrant and the rest are labeled in that order anti-clockwise?

From that diagram, sin is negative for the bottom 2 quadrants. That means to say the angle phi is either [tex]\pi + \phi \ \mbox{or} \ -\phi[/tex]'

[tex]cos \ \phi = -\frac{2}{\sqrt{5}} [/tex] Again you want the values of the angle for which cos phi is negative. From the ASTC quadrant diagram, cosine is negative for [tex]\pi - \phi \ \mbox{or} \ \pi + \phi[/tex]

The only possible solution which satisfies both is [tex]\pi + \phi[/tex].
 
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Defennder said:
A isn't 5. You miswrote your answer here, despite having found the correct one.

Oops, typing error, I meant [tex] A= \sqrt(-1^2 + -2^2) [/tex]

[tex] A= \sqrt(5) [/tex]

Thanks
 

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