Finding the Pivot Point of a Chassis: Need Help!

In summary, the conversation discusses how to find the pivot point of a chassis with weights attached in order to balance the total torque. It is determined that only horizontal distances are important and the vertical distance is not necessary for solving the problem. The final answer for the pivot point is 3.577 meters from the left. The person expressing gratitude for the help received.
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I am having some real trouble with this, could anybody help, attached is a picture of a chassis with some weights on etc, i need to find out where the pivot point would be. i can't move any of the objects around, does anybody know how to do it?
 

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The torque (turning force) about any point at distance x from a mass is its weight times that distance: Wx. The total torque of a group of mass is the total of the torques for each one. In particular, if x is measured from the far left, the torque due to the first 6N weight is 6(x- .5), due to the next 10N weight, 10(x- 3), due to the next weight, 2(x- 10), and the last, 8(x- 5), so the total torque is
6(x- .5)+ 10(x- 3)+ 2(x- 10)+ 8(x- 5). in order that the this balance, the total torque must be 0. Set that equal to 0 and solve for x.

Note that, because the pivot applies a force vertically, only the horizontal distance is important. (Which is pretty much implied by the way to problem is given: they do not tell you the height of that "up" section on the right.)
 
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So if the vertical was dimensioned would this change the any part of the equation?
 
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No, it wouldn't. The only forces here are the weights which act only vertically. As far as the pivot point is concerned only horizontal distances matter. My point was that if the vertical distance were necessary, since it is not given, you would not be able to do the problem. The fact that the vertical distance is not given, in a "book" problem, is a hint that it is not necessary.
 
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The answer i have got for that then is the pivot is 3.577M in from the left. cool, well that is a massive help, i can not tell you how much i appreciate it, thanks very much HallsofIvy :)
 

FAQ: Finding the Pivot Point of a Chassis: Need Help!

What is the purpose of finding the pivot point of a chassis?

The pivot point of a chassis is the point at which the chassis rotates or pivots during movement. It is important to accurately locate this point in order to properly design and set up a vehicle's suspension system for optimal handling and performance.

How can I determine the pivot point of a chassis?

The pivot point can be determined through various methods such as physical measurement and calculation, computer simulation, and experimentation. Each method has its own advantages and limitations, and it is recommended to use a combination of methods for the most accurate results.

What factors can affect the location of the pivot point?

The location of the pivot point can be affected by various factors such as the chassis geometry, weight distribution, suspension design, and tire characteristics. Therefore, it is important to consider all these factors when determining the pivot point.

What are some common mistakes when finding the pivot point of a chassis?

Some common mistakes when finding the pivot point include not considering all the aforementioned factors, using inaccurate measurements, and not accounting for the effects of the driver's weight. It is important to carefully analyze and validate the results to ensure accuracy.

Can I adjust the location of the pivot point?

In most cases, the location of the pivot point is fixed and cannot be adjusted. However, some suspension designs may allow for minor adjustments through the use of shims or mounting points. It is important to consult a professional or conduct thorough research before attempting to make any adjustments.

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