Finding the Role of R in Trigonometric Equations: An Algebraic Exploration

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In summary, Tiny Tim is trying to figure out why R is in the equation for acos(x)+bsin(x)=Rsin(x+t). He thinks that sin(x+t)=sin(x)cos(t)+ cos(x)sin(t)= acos(x)+ bsin(x) and so a=cos(t) and b=sin(t). However, this equation becomes backwards when sins(t) and cos(t) are between -1 and 1 and sin^2(t)+ cos^2(t)= 1. To solve for R, Tiny Tim normalizes the coefficients and finds that R=\sqrt{A^2+ B^2
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Homework Statement



acos(x)+bsin(x)=Rsin(x+t)

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Is there any way to show how R is "placed" in acos(x)+bsin(x)=Rsin(x+t) algebraically?
I mean I could, probably, do acos(x)+bsin(x)=sin(t)cos(x)+ cos(t)sinx(x), but still somehow need R in it. Does R give the equation more balance? ;)

Well, we also have x=Rcost and y=Rsint in addition to double angle identities, but I still can't seem to find satisfying algebraic justification for R's existence in f(x)= Rsin(x+t).

Please, help me figure it out.

Thanks.
 
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hi solve! :smile:

just expand sin(x+t), and equate coefficients :wink:
 
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tiny-tim said:
hi solve! :smile:

just expand sin(x+t), and equate coefficients :wink:

Hi,tiny-tim.

See, sin(x+t)=sin(x)cos(t)+ cos(x)sin(t)= acos(x)+ bsin(x)

Ok, a=cos(t) and b=sin(t), but how or why does R end up there?
 
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solve said:
See, sin(x+t)=sin(x)cos(t)+ cos(x)sin(t)= acos(x)+ bsin(x)

you left something out! :biggrin:
 
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solve said:
Hi,tiny-tim.

See, sin(x+t)=sin(x)cos(t)+ cos(x)sin(t)= acos(x)+ bsin(x)

Ok, a=cos(t) and b=sin(t), but how or why does R end up there?

You have it backwards! If

[tex]\sin(x)\cos(t)+\cos(x)\sin(t)\equiv a\cdot\cos(x)+b\cdot\sin(x)[/tex]

then [itex]a=\sin(t)[/itex] and [itex]b=\cos(t)[/itex].
 
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tiny-tim said:
you left something out! :biggrin:

Does that happen to be R? If yes, I'd like to know why and how R got there.
 
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Mentallic said:
You have it backwards! If

[tex]\sin(x)\cos(t)+\cos(x)\sin(t)\equiv a\cdot\cos(x)+b\cdot\sin(x)[/tex]

then [itex]a=\sin(t)[/itex] and [itex]b=\cos(t)[/itex].

Thanks.
 
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acos(x)+bsin(x)=Rsin(x+t)
solve said:
See, sin(x+t)=sin(x)cos(t)+ cos(x)sin(t)= acos(x)+ bsin(x)

Rsin(x+t) = Rsin(x)cos(t) + Rcos(x)sin(t) = acos(x)+ bsin(x) :wink:
 
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tiny-tim said:
Rsin(x+t) = Rsin(x)cos(t) + Rcos(x)sin(t)= acos(x)+ bsin(x) :wink:

Ok.

acos(x)+bsin(x)=Rsin(x+t)

Why is there R in the above equation? Yes, you can expand it, but that doesn't explain what kind of reasoning keeps R in f(x)=Rsin(x+t)
 
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Of course, sin(x+ t)= sin(x)cos(t)+ cos(x)sin(t) so that a= sin(t) and b= cos(t). But note that sin(t) and cos(t) are between -1 and 1 and that [itex]sin^2(t)+ cos^2(t)= 1[/itex]. In order to be able to write A sin(x)+ B cos(x), for any A and B, as "R sin(x+ t)" we must "normalize" the coefficients: letting [itex]R= \sqrt{A^2+ B^2}[/itex] so that Asin(x)+ Bcos(x)= R((A/R)sin(x)+ (B/R)cos(x)) and then let cos(t)= A/R and sin(t)= B/R.
 
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Rsin(x+t)

expand sin(x+t) …

Rsin(x+t)

:wink:
 

FAQ: Finding the Role of R in Trigonometric Equations: An Algebraic Exploration

What is the equation "Acos(x)+bsin(x) = Rsin(x+t)" used for?

The equation "Acos(x)+bsin(x) = Rsin(x+t)" is used to represent a sinusoidal function with both cosine and sine components. It can be used to model various phenomena in physics, engineering, and mathematics.

What do the variables A, B, R, and t represent in the equation?

In the equation "Acos(x)+bsin(x) = Rsin(x+t)", A and B represent the amplitudes of the cosine and sine functions, respectively. R represents the overall amplitude of the function and t represents the phase shift or horizontal translation of the function.

How do I solve for x in the equation "Acos(x)+bsin(x) = Rsin(x+t)"?

To solve for x in the equation "Acos(x)+bsin(x) = Rsin(x+t)", you can use trigonometric identities and properties to simplify the equation and isolate the variable x. You can also use a graphing calculator to find the intersection points of the two functions.

Can the equation "Acos(x)+bsin(x) = Rsin(x+t)" be used to model real-world data?

Yes, the equation "Acos(x)+bsin(x) = Rsin(x+t)" can be used to model real-world data as long as the data follows a sinusoidal pattern. This equation can be adjusted to fit the data by changing the values of A, B, R, and t.

What is the difference between the equation "Acos(x)+bsin(x) = Rsin(x+t)" and "Acos(x)+bsin(x) = Rcos(x+t)"?

The main difference between the two equations is that the first one has a sine function on both sides, while the second one has a cosine function on one side and a sine function on the other. This results in a phase shift of t in the first equation and a phase shift of t/2 in the second equation.

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