Finding the Shortest Distance Between Two Planes

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In summary, an incorrect answer is 1/2 instead of 5/6 and the problem is that you didn't choose a point of intersection to build a normal line from.
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Find the shortest distance between the 2 planes:

2x+2y-z=1 and 4x+4y-2z=5


How do we approach this problem?
I used the approach of finding the point at which the normal of one plane intersects the other plane and then determining the length of this vector. The answer I've got is 5/6 which is not correct. The correct answer is 1/2.

What is wrong with my approach? And how should we approach this problem?

Thanks.
 
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cyt91 said:
What is wrong with my approach? And how should we approach this problem?

You'll need to show what you calculated in order for someone to judge what you might have done wrong. Your verbal description sounds fine as far as it goes...
 
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I'm a bit unclear about how you are setting up what you call your "point of interesection" equations. But you can do this:

You know that the common normal vector for the parallel planes is < 2, 2, -1 >. Pick a point in the plane 2x + 2y - z = 1 ; we can make this easy and use ( 0, 0, -1 ). Then this normal line passing through the chosen point has the vector equation

< x, y, z > = < 2t , 2t, -t - 1 > .

This line intersects the second plane for 4x + 4y - 2z = 5 , or

4 · 2t + 4 · 2t - 2 ( -t - 1 ) = 5 --> 18t + 2 = 5 ---> t = 1/6 .

The point of intersection in that plane is then ( 2 · 1/6 , 2 · 1/6 , -1/6 - 1 ) = ( 1/3 , 1/3 , -7/6 ). The distance between the two points along this line mutually perpendicular to the two planes (what is called the "perpendicular distance", the shortest distance between the planes) is given by

[tex]\sqrt{ ( \frac{1}{3} - 0 )^{2} + ( \frac{1}{3} - 0 )^{2} + ( -\frac{7}{6} - [-1] )^{2} } = \sqrt{ ( \frac{1}{3} )^{2} + ( \frac{1}{3} )^{2} + ( -\frac{1}{6} )^{2} } = \sqrt{ \frac{1}{9} + \frac{1}{9} + \frac{1}{36} } [/tex]

[tex]= \sqrt{ \frac{4 + 4 + 1}{36} } = \sqrt{ \frac{9}{36} } = \frac{1}{2} .[/tex]

I think the problem you may have made for yourself is that you didn't actually choose a point of intersection in either plane to build a normal line from.

A more general argument along these lines gives the perpendicular distance between two parallel planes ax + by + cz = d1 and ax + by + cz = d2 as [itex] D = \frac{\vert d_{1} - d_{2} \vert}{\sqrt{a^{2} + b^{2} + c^{2} } } . [/itex] For this problem, we would write

2x + 2y - z = 1 and 2x + 2y - z = 5/2 ;

The square root in the denominator gives 3 and the absolute value of the difference in the numerator is 3/2 , so the formula yields D = (3/2) / 3 = 1/2 .
 
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"Then this normal line passing through the chosen point has the vector equation
< x, y, z > = < 2t , 2t, -t - 1 > "

Is this derived from :

r(t) = r0 + tv ,where r0 and v are vectors

which is the vector equation for a straight line?
 
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cyt91 said:
"Then this normal line passing through the chosen point has the vector equation
< x, y, z > = < 2t , 2t, -t - 1 > "

Is this derived from :

r(t) = r0 + tv ,where r0 and v are vectors

which is the vector equation for a straight line?

Yes, that's right: this is just using vector notation, rather than writing three separate parametric equations for the three coordinates of the points on the line.
 
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You can use this "formula" but you can attempt to prove its derivative.

Given a point [tex]P(x_{0},y_{0},z_{0})[/tex], and the equation of a plane is ax+by+cz+d=0,

The distance from the point to the plane is:

D=[tex]\mid \frac{ax_{0}+by_{0}+cz_{0}+d}{\sqrt{a^{2}+b^{2}+c^{2}}[/tex]
 
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Got it! Yes. I did not pick a point on the first plane through which the normal vector passes.

Thanks.
 

FAQ: Finding the Shortest Distance Between Two Planes

What is the formula for finding the distance between two planes?

The formula for finding the distance between two planes is:
d = |ax1 + by1 +cz1 + d| / √(a² + b² + c²), where (a,b,c) is the normal vector of one plane and (x1,y1,z1) is a point on the other plane.

Can the distance between two planes be negative?

No, the distance between two planes is always positive. It represents the shortest distance between the two planes, regardless of their orientation.

How is the distance between two parallel planes calculated?

If the two planes are parallel, the distance between them can be found by calculating the distance of any point on one plane to the other plane. This is done by finding the perpendicular distance from the point to the other plane, using the formula mentioned in the first question.

What is the significance of the distance between two planes?

The distance between two planes is important in various applications, such as in geometry, physics, and engineering. It can help in determining the position of an object in relation to two parallel planes, or in finding the shortest distance between two objects represented by planes.

Can the distance between two planes be greater than the length of a line segment connecting them?

Yes, it is possible for the distance between two planes to be greater than the length of a line segment connecting them. This can happen when the two planes are at an angle to each other, and the shortest distance between them is not a straight line connecting them.

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