Finding the Sum of Cubes for Rational Numbers with Integer Roots

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In summary, the equation $rx^2+(r+2)x+r-1=0$ has all integer roots if $r$ is rational. By dividing through by $r$, we can find that $r$ must be $\frac{1}{n}$ for some integer $n$. Using this, the equation can be simplified to $x^2 + (1+2n)x + 1-n = 0$. The discriminant of this equation must be a perfect square, and after some simplification, we find that $n$ must be either 1 or -3, and therefore $r$ can only be 1 or $-\frac{1}{3}$. The sum of the cubes of these values
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r is rational ,and all the roots of equation:
$rx^2+(r+2)x+r-1=0$ are integers
please find :$\sum r^3$
 
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Albert said:
r is rational ,and all the roots of equation:
$rx^2+(r+2)x+r-1=0$ are integers
please find :$\sum r^3$
[sp]If $r=0$ then the equation becomes $2x-1=0$, which does not have a n integer solution. So $r\ne0$ and we can divide through by $r$, getting $x^2 + \bigl(1 + \frac2r\bigr)x + 1 - \frac1r = 0.$ The product of the roots is $1 - \frac1r$, which must be an integer, so $\frac1r$ is an integer, say $r = \frac1n.$ The equation is then $x^2 + (1+2n)x + 1-n = 0$ and its roots are $x = \frac12\bigl(-1-2n \pm\sqrt{(1+2n)^2 - 4(1-n)}\bigr).$ The discriminant is $$(1+2n)^2 - 4(1-n)= 4n^2 + 8n - 3 = 4(n+1)^2 - 7,$$ and this must be a square, say $4(n+1)^2 - 7 = m^2.$ But the only squares that differ by $7$ are $9$ and $16$. It follows that $4(n+1)^2 = 16$, so $n+1 = \pm 2.$ Therefore $n=1$ or $-3$, and $r=1$ or $-\frac13.$ The sum of cubes is therefore $1 - \frac1{27} = \frac{26}{27}.$[/sp]

Edit. Thanks to Pranav, whose deleted comment set me along the right lines for attacking this problem.
 
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[sp]If $r=0$ then the equation becomes $2x-1=0$, which does not have a n integer solution. So $r\ne0$ and we can divide through by $r$, getting $x^2 + \bigl(1 + \frac2r\bigr)x + 1 - \frac1r = 0.$ The product of the roots is $1 - \frac1r$, which must be an integer, so $\frac1r$ is an integer, say $r = \frac1n.$ The equation is then $x^2 + (1+2n)x + 1-n = 0$ and its roots are $x = \frac12\bigl(-1-2n \pm\sqrt{(1+2n)^2 - 4(1-n)}\bigr).$ The discriminant is $$(1+2n)^2 - 4(1-n)= 4n^2 + 8n - 3 = 4(n+1)^2 - 7,$$ and this must be a square, say $4(n+1)^2 - 7 = m^2.$ But the only squares that differ by $7$ are $9$ and $16$. It follows that $4(n+1)^2 = 16$, so $n+1 = \pm 2.$ Therefore $n=1$ or $-3$, and $r=1$ or $-\frac13.$ The sum of cubes is therefore $1 - \frac1{27} = \frac{26}{27}.$[/sp]

Edit. Thanks to Pranav, whose deleted comment set me along the right lines for attacking this problem.
Superb solution, Opalg! (Clapping)
 

FAQ: Finding the Sum of Cubes for Rational Numbers with Integer Roots

What is the formula for finding the summation of r^3?

The formula for finding the summation of r^3 is n(n+1)^2/4, where n is the number of terms in the series.

How do you find the number of terms in the series for finding the summation of r^3?

To find the number of terms in the series for finding the summation of r^3, you can use the formula n = (r+1)/2, where r is the last term in the series.

What is the significance of using r^3 in finding the summation?

The use of r^3 in finding the summation indicates that the series is a cubic series, which means that the terms increase by the cube of the natural numbers.

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No, the formula for finding the summation of r^3 can only be used for cubic series, where the terms increase by the cube of the natural numbers.

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