Finding tidal height difference using two wells

In summary, the conversation is discussing Newton's model of tidal height using two wells dug to the center of Earth, the equations and assumptions used in the model, and a proposed approach for solving the problem. There is also some disagreement about whether the gravitational fields of the Earth should cancel out in the equations.
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Homework Statement



Newton's model of the tidal height, using two wells dug to the center of Earth (one from the North pole, one from the equator on the side of Earth facing away from the Moon), used the fact that the pressure at the bottom of the two wells should be the same. Assume water is incompressible and find the tidal height difference h due to the Moon using this model.

Homework Equations



Pressure is force per unit area. Assume the wells have perpendicular cross-sectional area of exactly one unit area. Then pressure numerically equals (neglecting units) force. Our two wells connect at the center of Earth, so we must have [tex]\int^{x_{max}}_{0}\rho g_{x}dx=\int^{y_{max}}_{0}\rho g_{y}dy[/tex], where [tex]\rho[/tex] is the density of water and [tex]g_{x}[/tex] and [tex]g_{y}[/tex] are the gravitational fields active at x (distance from Earth's center in the direction of the North pole well mouth) and y (distance from the Earth's center in the direction of the equator well mouth), respectively.

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm having trouble getting started, beyond what I've outlined above. I have equations for the x and y components of the tidal force. I'm assuming [tex]g_{x}[/tex] is the sum of the gravitational field induced by the Earth and the gravitational field induced by the Moon. Likewise for [tex]g_{y}[/tex]. Now, the gravitational field of the Earth should be about the same in either case, and thus cancel out, leaving the tidal forces to contend with.

Is this the right approach?
 
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Now, the gravitational field of the Earth should be about the same in either case, and thus cancel out, leaving the tidal forces to contend with.
Is this the right approach?
I'm not really sure what you mean here.

I don't think they cancel out because you are dealing with two integrals, so you really can't do that.

I would start imagining the mass of the Earth and the Moon concentrated in their respective centers (I think we're allowed to do that), then evaluate the attraction forces of the two masses (with the distance center-water point), and solve the integrals.
 

FAQ: Finding tidal height difference using two wells

What is the purpose of finding tidal height difference using two wells?

Finding the tidal height difference using two wells is a method used by scientists to measure the difference in water levels between two wells located near a body of water. This can provide valuable information about the tides and water flow in the area.

How is the tidal height difference calculated using two wells?

The tidal height difference is calculated by taking the difference between the water levels in the two wells at a specific time, usually during high and low tide. This can be done manually by measuring the water levels with a ruler or using more advanced techniques such as pressure sensors.

What factors can affect the accuracy of the tidal height difference measurement?

There are several factors that can affect the accuracy of the tidal height difference measurement, including the distance between the two wells, the type of well and its depth, and the presence of any obstructions or changes in terrain between the wells.

Why is it important to find the tidal height difference using two wells?

Finding the tidal height difference using two wells is important for understanding the dynamics of tides and water flow in a specific area. This information can be used for various purposes such as predicting flooding, studying the effects of climate change, and managing coastal resources.

Can the method of finding tidal height difference using two wells be applied to other bodies of water?

Yes, this method can be applied to other bodies of water such as lakes, rivers, and estuaries. However, the specific techniques and factors to consider may vary depending on the characteristics of the body of water being studied.

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