Finding velocities of two people on skates

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In summary: You still need to write momentum conservation equations at the three times that I mentioned. In summary, two people of masses 66.0 kg and 56.0 kg exchange a 0.0430 kg snowball while on skates. The first person initially moving at 2.50 m/s throws the snowball forward with a ground speed of 31.0 m/s. The second person, initially at rest, catches the snowball. Using the conservation of momentum, the final velocities of the two people are calculated to be -866.4 m/s and 1057.6 m/s after the snowball is exchanged. Disregarding friction between the skates and the ice, the velocities of the two people are significantly
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Homework Statement


A 66.0 kg person throws a 0.0430 kg snowball forward with a ground speed of 31.0 m/s. A second person, with a mass of 56.0 kg, catches the snowball. Both people are on skates. The first person is initially moving forward with a speed of 2.50 m/s, and the second person is initially at rest. What are the velocities of the two people after the snowball is exchanged? Disregard the friction between the skates and the ice.
a. thrower
b. catcher

The Attempt at a Solution


I do not even know where to begin
 
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As with all of the three problems that you posted consecutively, begin by conserving linear momentum.
 
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mv + mv = mv + mv
(66.0 kg)(31.0 m/s) + (56.0 kg)(0 m/s) = (66.0 kg)v1f + (56.0 kg)v2f

2046 m/s = 66v1f + 56v2f
(1924 m/s = -(v1f - v2f) )66

2046 m/s = 66v1f + 56v2f
126984 m/s = -66v1f + 66v2f

129030 m/s = 122v2f
v2f = 1057.6 m/s

1924 m/s = - v1f + 1057.6 m/s
v1f= -866.4 m/s

these numbers seem very high
 
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mandy9008 said:
mv + mv = mv + mv
(66.0 kg)(31.0 m/s) + (56.0 kg)(0 m/s) = (66.0 kg)v1f + (56.0 kg)v2f
What are you saying here? What is moving at 31.0 m/s, the 66-kg person or the snowball? There are three distinct times here.

1. Time "before": Both persons are at rest, one is holding the snowball.
2. Time "in-between": The snowball is flying through the air, the person who threw it is moving, the other person is not.
3. Time "after": The snowball is caught and both persons are moving.

You need to write two momentum conservation equations, one linking "before" and "in-betwen" and one linking "in-between" and "after". Your system is two persons and one snowball.
 
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kuruman said:
What are you saying here? What is moving at 31.0 m/s, the 66-kg person or the snowball? There are three distinct times here.

1. Time "before": Both persons are at rest, one is holding the snowball.
Per the given information, the first person is moving at 2.5 m/s.
kuruman said:
2. Time "in-between": The snowball is flying through the air, the person who threw it is moving, the other person is not.
The thrower is still moving.
kuruman said:
3. Time "after": The snowball is caught and both persons are moving.

You need to write two momentum conservation equations, one linking "before" and "in-betwen" and one linking "in-between" and "after". Your system is two persons and one snowball.
 
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Mark44 said:
Per the given information, the first person is moving at 2.5 m/s. The thrower is still moving.
Sorry, I missed that part, bu tit does not change the strategy for answering the question.
 

Related to Finding velocities of two people on skates

1. How do you calculate the velocities of two people on skates?

To calculate the velocities of two people on skates, you need to first determine their initial and final positions and the time it takes for them to travel between those positions. Then, you can use the formula velocity = (final position - initial position) / time to calculate their velocities.

2. What units are used to measure velocity?

Velocity is typically measured in units of distance per time, such as meters per second or feet per minute.

3. What factors can affect the velocities of two people on skates?

The velocities of two people on skates can be affected by factors such as the surface they are skating on, the amount of friction present, their body weight and size, and any external forces acting on them.

4. Is it necessary to know the mass of the skaters to calculate their velocities?

No, the mass of the skaters is not necessary to calculate their velocities. Velocity is determined by the distance traveled and the time it takes to travel that distance, not by the mass of the objects moving.

5. Can the velocities of two people on skates be different even if they start and end at the same positions?

Yes, the velocities of two people on skates can be different even if they start and end at the same positions. This can be due to different factors such as the force applied by each skater, their skating technique, etc.

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