Finding where two curves share tangent lines

In summary, the problem is to find all points that lie on both the surfaces x^2+y^2+z^2=3 and x^3+y^3+z^3=3 and share the same tangent line. This is equivalent to finding points that satisfy the constraint 3x^2+3y^2+3z^2=2x+2y+2z and lie on the original surfaces. After manipulating the equations, we find that the points must lie on the plane x+y+z=9/2, but we must also introduce a constraint to ensure that the solutions are on the sphere and not just on the plane.
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Homework Statement


Find all points for which the curves [itex]x^2+y^2+z^2=3[/itex] and [itex]x^3+y^3+z^3=3[/itex] share the same tangent line.


Homework Equations


Sharing the same tangent line amounts to having the same derivative. The constraint then is that [itex]3x^2+3y^2+3z^2=2x+2y+2z[/itex]. The points must obviously also lie on the original curves.


The Attempt at a Solution


Combining the constraint on the derivatives ([itex]3(x^2+y^2+z^2)-2(x+y+z)=0[/itex]) with the constraint that [itex]x^2+y^2+z^2=x^3+y^3+z^3=3[/itex] we see that the constraint on the derivatives becomes [itex]3(3)-2(x+y+z)=0[/itex] which is just the planar equation [itex]2(x+y+z)=9[/itex]. This feels wrong to me; these curves should not intersect at a plane. Am I right?
 
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Those aren't curves, they are surfaces. Tangent lines aren't usually what you talk about with surfaces although I guess there's no law against it.:rolleyes:

If it's any help to you, here's a picture of the two surfaces:

surfaces.jpg
 
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I believe this is not quite finished, though. You have found that your points must lie in the plane x + y + z = 9/2 , but you must still introduce a constraint, since plainly this equation alone permits "solutions" which are far from the sphere. You could, say, write z in terms of x and y using the equation for the sphere.
 

FAQ: Finding where two curves share tangent lines

How can I determine where two curves share tangent lines?

To find the points where two curves share tangent lines, you will need to find the points where the slopes of the two curves are equal. This can be done by finding the derivative of each curve and setting them equal to each other. The resulting equation will give you the x-values of the points where the curves share tangent lines.

What is the significance of finding where two curves share tangent lines?

Finding where two curves share tangent lines can help you determine the points of intersection between the two curves. This can be useful in solving real-world problems, such as finding the optimal solution for a given situation or predicting the behavior of a system.

3. Can two curves share more than one tangent line?

Yes, two curves can share more than one tangent line. This can occur when the two curves have multiple points of intersection or when the curves have a point of tangency where the slopes of both curves are equal.

4. Are there any special cases where two curves do not share any tangent lines?

Yes, there are certain cases where two curves do not share any tangent lines. This can happen when the two curves do not intersect at all or when they intersect at a point where the slopes of the two curves are not equal.

5. How can I visualize the points where two curves share tangent lines?

You can use a graphing calculator or graphing software to plot the two curves and visually identify the points where they share tangent lines. You can also plot the derivative of each curve and look for points where the two derivatives are equal, which will give you the x-values of the points of tangency.

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