Finding $x$ and $y$ Given $A, G, H \in N$ and $A+G+H=49$

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In summary, given $x,y\in R$ with $x>y>0$, and $A=\dfrac {x+y}{2}, G=\sqrt {xy}, H=\dfrac {2xy}{x+y}$, we are asked to find $x,y$ if $A,G,H\in N$ and $A+G+H=49$. The solution is $x=8, y=6$.
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we are given :$x,y\in R ,and \,\, x>y>0, A=\dfrac {x+y}{2},G=\sqrt {xy}, H=\dfrac {2xy}{x+y}$

if $A,G,H\in N, \,\, and \,\,\, A+G+H=49$

please find $,x,y$
 
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Albert said:
we are given :$x,y\in R ,and \,\, x>y>0, A=\dfrac {x+y}{2},G=\sqrt {xy}, H=\dfrac {2xy}{x+y}$

if $A,G,H\in N, \,\, and \,\,\, A+G+H=49$

please find $,x,y$
hint :
$G^2=A\times H$
$A,G,H $ is a geometric sequence
and $A>G>H$
 
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Albert said:
hint :
$G^2=A\times H$
$A,G,H $ is a geometric sequence
and $A>G>H$
I hope that you could have given some time before a hint. One day is too short. Here is the solution

Let common ratio be r
so $H + Hr + Hr^2= 49$
so $H(1+r+r^2) = 49$
r need not be integer it could be $\dfrac{p}{q}$ but let us try integer
so we get
H is a factor of 49 so H = 1 or 7
H =1 gives r irrational and H= 7 gives r = 2

so $AM = 28$ or $x+ y = 56$ and $xy =196$

solving these 2 as x is greater $x= 28+14\sqrt{3}$ and $y= 28- 14\sqrt{3}$
For r to be fraction h has to be a product of a sqaure that multyiple has to be factor of 49. So h has to be a square or 7 * square
trying $H = 9$ we get $G = 15$ and $A = 25$ and so $x = 45,y = 5$ as the second solution
 
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kaliprasad said:
I hope that you could have given some time before a hint. One day is too short. Here is the solution

Let common ratio be r
so $H + Hr + Hr^2= 49$
so $H(1+r+r^2) = 49$
r need not be integer it could be $\dfrac{p}{q}$ but let us try integer
so we get
H is a factor of 49 so H = 1 or 7
H =1 gives r irrational and H= 7 gives r = 2

so $AM = 28$ or $x+ y = 56$ and $xy =196$

solving these 2 as x is greater $x= 28+14\sqrt{3}$ and $y= 28- 14\sqrt{3}$
For r to be fraction h has to be a product of a sqaure that multyiple has to be factor of 49. So h has to be a square or 7 * square
trying $H = 9$ we get $G = 15$ and $A = 25$ and so $x = 45,y = 5$ as the second solution
very good !
 

FAQ: Finding $x$ and $y$ Given $A, G, H \in N$ and $A+G+H=49$

What are some possible values for x and y?

The values for x and y can vary depending on the values of A, G, and H. Some possible values include: x = 25, y = 24; x = 30, y = 19; x = 20, y = 29; x = 10, y = 39; x = 35, y = 14; x = 40, y = 9; x = 15, y = 34; x = 5, y = 44; x = 45, y = 4; x = 50, y = -1 (if we allow negative numbers).

How do you solve for x and y in this equation?

To solve for x and y, we can use algebraic equations and properties. We can start by isolating one of the variables, for example x, by subtracting the other two variables from both sides of the equation. This will give us an equation in terms of x. Then, we can use the fact that A, G, and H are natural numbers to narrow down the possible values for x. Once we have a value for x, we can plug it back into the original equation to solve for y.

Is there more than one solution to this equation?

Yes, there can be multiple solutions to this equation. Since A, G, and H can take on different values, there can be multiple combinations of x and y that satisfy the equation A + G + H = 49.

Can x and y be fractions or decimals?

No, x and y must be natural numbers, which are positive whole numbers starting from 1. Fractions and decimals are not considered natural numbers.

Can this equation be solved without using algebra?

Yes, it is possible to solve this equation without using algebra. We can use logical reasoning and trial and error to find values for x and y that satisfy the equation. We can also create a table or chart to list out different combinations of A, G, and H and see which ones add up to 49.

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