First Order ODE Help: Troubleshooting Tips for Solving Differential Equations

In summary, the person was having trouble finding an explicit solution for the equation xy'-4y=0, but you pointed out that in many cases for ODE's, an implicit solution may be more suitable. You also provided a correction for the integration process and suggested leaving the "4" on the right side of the equation. The person expressed their gratitude for your help.
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Having a bit of trouble, what do i do next? Thanks.
 

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Uh, you've already solved the problem. There's nothing left for you to do here.
I do see that you didn't find an explicit version of y (i.e. nothing of the form y=...), but in many cases of ODE's, this is not even possible or desirable. The solution you provided is implicit, but it's a valid solution nonetheless. Except when your instructor told you to find an explicit solution, then you're not done yet...
 
  • #3
You have the equation xy'- 4y= 0 and have separated it as
[tex]\frac{dy}{4y}= \frac{dx}{x}[/itex]
You then integrate to get
[tex]4 ln(y)= ln(x)+ C[/tex]

That is incorrect:
[tex]\int \frac{dy}{4y}= \frac{1}{4}\int\frac{dy}{y}= \frac{1}{4}ln(y)[/tex]
NOT "4 ln(y)".

You should then have [itex]ln(y^{1/4})= ln(cx)[/itex] where C= ln(c).

That will then give you [itex]y^{1/4}= cx[/itex] or [itex]y= c^4x^4[/itex] which you could also write as [itex]y= C' x^4[/itex] with [itex]C'= c^4[/itex].

It would have been better to have left the "4" on the right side of the equation:]
[tex]\frac{dy}{y}= \frac{4dx}{x}[/tex]
 
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thanks, I've got it now :)
 

FAQ: First Order ODE Help: Troubleshooting Tips for Solving Differential Equations

What is a first order ordinary differential equation (ODE)?

A first order ordinary differential equation is an equation that contains a single independent variable and its derivative with respect to that variable. It describes the relationship between a function and its rate of change.

What are some common techniques for solving first order ODEs?

Some common techniques for solving first order ODEs include separation of variables, integrating factors, and substitution.

What are some common mistakes to avoid when solving first order ODEs?

Some common mistakes to avoid when solving first order ODEs include forgetting to check for initial conditions, using incorrect algebraic manipulations, and not simplifying the final solution.

How can I check my solution to a first order ODE?

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