Force on a charge from a nearby charged rod

In summary, a charged rod creates an electric field in its vicinity, exerting a force on any nearby charged objects. The magnitude and direction of this force depend on the charge of the rod and the charge of the object, as well as the distance between them. A positive charge will experience a force in the direction of the field, while a negative charge will experience a force in the opposite direction. This interaction illustrates the fundamental principles of electrostatics and the behavior of charged particles in electric fields.
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cherry
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Homework Statement
An electric charge of Q = 6.4 C is distributed uniformly along a rod of length 2L, extending from y = -15.6 cm to y = +15.6 cm, as shown in the diagram. A charge q = 3.05 C, and the same sign as Q, is placed at (D,0), where D = 44 cm. Integrate to compute the total force on q in the x-direction.
Relevant Equations
dF=(kqQ/2Lr^2)dy
Hi! My attempt at this solution was:

∫dF = k*q*Q / 2L ∫ (1/r^2) dy

and we know that r^2 = D^2 + y^2 based on the diagram.
Screenshot 2024-01-28 at 3.25.30 PM.png


Here is where I start getting confused.
I looked at a different physics forum post and the mentor gave this equation:
Screenshot 2024-01-28 at 3.27.56 PM.png


I am mainly confused with the math.
How did he end up with R^(-3) inside the integral?
Otherwise, I ended up solving the integral and getting the right answer.

Thanks!
 
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cherry said:
Homework Statement: An electric charge of Q = 6.4 C is distributed uniformly along a rod of length 2L, extending from y = -15.6 cm to y = +15.6 cm, as shown in the diagram. A charge q = 3.05 C, and the same sign as Q, is placed at (D,0), where D = 44 cm. Integrate to compute the total force on q in the x-direction.
Relevant Equations: dF=(kqQ/2Lr^2)dy

Hi! My attempt at this solution was:

∫dF = k*q*Q / 2L ∫ (1/r^2) dy

and we know that r^2 = D^2 + y^2 based on the diagram.
View attachment 339345

Here is where I start getting confused.
I looked at a different physics forum post and the mentor gave this equation:
View attachment 339346

I am mainly confused with the math.
How did he end up with R^(-3) inside the integral?
Otherwise, I ended up solving the integral and getting the right answer.

Thanks!
Look at Post #3 in the thread that you gave the link for.
 
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The electric field at point D due to charge ##dq## is a vector that has a magnitude and a direction.
As shown in the figure, the magnitude is ##dE=\dfrac{kQ~dy}{2L(D^2+y^2)}##.
In what direction does this vector contribution point?
An integral is an addition. How do you add vectors?
 

FAQ: Force on a charge from a nearby charged rod

What is the force on a charge due to a nearby charged rod?

The force on a charge due to a nearby charged rod can be calculated using Coulomb's law. The force depends on the magnitude of the charge, the charge density on the rod, the distance between the charge and the rod, and the geometry of the rod. For a uniformly charged rod, the force can be derived by integrating the contributions of each infinitesimal charge segment along the rod.

How does the distance between the charge and the rod affect the force?

The force decreases with the square of the distance between the charge and the rod. This is because the electric field created by a charged rod diminishes with distance, and the force on the charge is directly proportional to the electric field strength at its location.

Does the length of the rod influence the force on the charge?

Yes, the length of the rod influences the force on the charge. A longer rod has more charge and thus creates a stronger electric field at a given point. For an infinitely long rod, the electric field is uniform and the force calculation simplifies, but for a finite rod, the force must be integrated along the length of the rod.

How does the distribution of charge on the rod affect the force?

If the charge distribution on the rod is uniform, the force can be calculated by integrating the contributions of each segment of the rod. If the charge distribution is non-uniform, the calculation becomes more complex and requires knowledge of the specific charge distribution to accurately determine the force.

What happens to the force if the charge on the rod is increased?

If the charge on the rod is increased, the electric field generated by the rod becomes stronger, resulting in a greater force on the nearby charge. The force is directly proportional to the amount of charge on the rod, so doubling the charge on the rod would double the force on the nearby charge.

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