Fourier transform and Cosmic variance - a few precisions

In summary, the discussion is about estimating the variance of the power spectrum in a Fourier decomposition. There is an intrinsic statistical error that depends on the number of observations available. The larger the value of k, the smaller the error due to a larger number of accessible values. The statistical error is expressed as a relative error and for the case of k=0, the error is infinite because there is only one pixel available for observation. This is explained through the use of spheres of varying sizes and the calculation of the number of pixels within each sphere. The discussion also includes questions about proving the formula for the statistical error and the conditions for considering it a relative error.
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I would like to understand the reasoning which is done on a report about the cosmic variance. I nedd precisions to know how the expression linking the error relative of Power spectrum and the number of pixels in Fourier space. I would like also to understand under which conditions relative error and standard deviation are equal.
I cite an original report of a colleague :
If we are interested in power spectrum, we want to estimate the
variance of the amplitude of the modes ##k## of our Fourier
decomposition. If one observes the whole observable Universe and we
do the Fourier transformation we get a cube whose center is the mode
## |\vec{k}| = 0## which corresponds to the mean value of the observed
field.

This mode has only one pixel. How do we measure the variance of the
process at ## |\vec{k}| = 0 ## ? We can not.

In fact we can but the value of doesn't mean anything because the
error is infinite. In other words, we have an intrinsic (statistical)
error which depends on the number of achievements to which we have
access.

one will be able to consider spheres of sizes ## dk ## between ## [k: k +
dk] ## which will contain a number of pixels ## N_ {k} = V_ {k}/(dk)^{3}## where ## V_{k} = 4 \pi k^{2} dk ## is the volume of the sphere
and ## (dk)^{3} ## is the volume of a pixel in our Fourier transform
cube.

So one can estimate how many values one can use to calculate our
power spectrum for each value of ## k ##. The greater the ## k ##, the
greater the number of accessible values and therefore the statistical
error decreases. The power spectrum is a variance estimator so the
statistical error is basically a relative error:

## \dfrac{\sigma (P(k))}{P(k)} = \sqrt{\dfrac{2}{N_{k}
-1}}_{\text{with}} N_{k} \approx 4\pi \left (\dfrac{k}{dk}\right)^{2} ##

So we can see that for the case ##|\vec{k}| = 0## we have an infinite error because ##N_{k} = 1##.
1) I can't manage to proove that the statistical error is formulated like :

##\dfrac{\sigma (P (k))}{P(k)} = \sqrt{\dfrac {2}{N_{k} -1}}_{\text{with}} N_{k} \approx 4\pi \left(\dfrac{k}{dk}\right)^{2}##

and why it is considered like a relative error ?

2) Which are the conditions to assimilate a statistical error (standard deviation) to a relative error (##\dfrac{\Delta x}{x}##) ?

3) How to prove that ##N_{k} = 1## in the case ##|\vec{k}| = 0## ?

Any help is welcome.
 
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fab13 said:
I cite an original report of a colleague
Please give a reference. You can't cite a source that nobody else but you can see.
 
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Isn't really no one who could help me about this problem of understanding ?
 
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fab13 said:
Hoping this will help you
Aside from the text being in French, this is still just a discussion forum and does not give enough information to figure out what the discussion is supposed to be about. There is one link to what looks like it should be a presentation, but the link is not valid (404 error).

Is there a peer-reviewed paper or something similar that the discussion you linked to is based on? Can you provide a link to such a paper?
 

FAQ: Fourier transform and Cosmic variance - a few precisions

What is a Fourier transform?

A Fourier transform is a mathematical tool used to decompose a function into its constituent frequencies. It takes a time-domain signal and converts it into a frequency-domain representation, allowing for analysis of the signal's frequency components.

How is a Fourier transform used in science?

Fourier transforms are used in a variety of scientific fields, including physics, engineering, and signal processing. They are particularly useful for analyzing periodic or cyclical phenomena, such as sound waves, electromagnetic waves, and financial data.

What is cosmic variance?

Cosmic variance refers to the inherent uncertainty in measurements of cosmological phenomena due to the limited size and scope of our observations. It is a result of the random distribution of matter and energy in the universe, and can affect our understanding of the properties of the universe at large scales.

How does cosmic variance affect our understanding of the universe?

Cosmic variance can introduce errors and uncertainties in our measurements of the universe, particularly at large scales. This can make it challenging to accurately determine the true values of cosmological parameters, such as the density of matter and dark energy in the universe.

Can Fourier transforms help mitigate the effects of cosmic variance?

While Fourier transforms cannot completely eliminate the effects of cosmic variance, they can be used to analyze and filter out noise and other unwanted signals in data, improving the accuracy of our measurements. Additionally, techniques such as windowing and padding can help reduce the impact of cosmic variance on Fourier analysis.

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