Free action invariant under galliean boosts?

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In summary, the non-relativistic Lagrangian: \mathcal L=\frac{1}{2}m \dot{x}^2 is not invariant under boosts x'=x+vt. However, the action must be invariant, not the Lagrangian. By considering infinitesimal transformations, the change in the Lagrangian can be written as a total time derivative, resulting in a conserved quantity Q. This conservation is also applicable for a potential where the forces between particles only depend on relative distances. This ultimately leads to the conclusion that in the absence of external forces, the acceleration of the center of mass is zero, expressed as the conservation of Q.
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Is the non-relativistic Lagrangian:

[tex]\mathcal L=\frac{1}{2}m \dot{x}^2 [/tex]

invariant under boosts x'=x+vt?

It doesn't seem like it is. Surely something must be wrong?
 
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Well, the action must be invariant, not the Lagrangian.
 
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dextercioby said:
Well, the action must be invariant, not the Lagrangian.

This is purely a transformation on the field x, and not on the coordinate t, so I think we can consider just the Lagrangian rather than the action.

In any case, the change in the Lagrangian:

[tex]\Delta \mathcal L=m \dot{x}v+m\frac{v^2}{2} \approx m \dot{x}v [/tex]

can't be written as a total time derivative as far as I can tell, so the Lagrangian's are inequivalent. O damn, yes it can:

[tex]\Delta \mathcal L=\frac{d}{dt}\left(mvx \right) [/tex]

So the conserved quantity is

[tex]Q=m\dot{x}t-mx [/tex]

which is clearly conserved for a free particle.

So adding a potential where the forces between particles only depends on relative distances doesn't add anything to ΔL, so Q is still conserved for that case.

So this is just saying that in the absence of external forces, the acceleration of the center of mass is zero, expressed as the conservation of Q. Neat.

Thanks.
 
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How did you get from Delta L to Q?
 
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Under an infinitesimal transformation
##\dot{q} \rightarrow\dot{q}+v## where ##v## is infinitesimally small, the lagrangian transforms as
##L=m\dot{q}^2/2 \rightarrow m\dot{q}^2/2+m\dot{q}v##.
The second term clearly is a time derivative.
It is sufficient to consider infinitesimal variations of the action.
You are right about the conservation of the center of mass.
 
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copernicus1 said:
How did you get from Delta L to Q?
It's done in http://www3.nd.edu/~kbrading/Research/Brading-Chapter4.pdf, Eq.(4.40).
 
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