Free Energy Diagrams: Understand Endo/Exothermic Reactions

In summary, the conversation discusses the use of free energy diagrams in determining whether a reaction is endothermic or exothermic. The speaker questions how this can be done, given that free energy is dependent on entropy and temperature. The other speaker explains that a negative change in free energy indicates an exothermic reaction, regardless of the initial hump on the diagram. However, the validity of the diagram depends on specific initial conditions and does not necessarily apply to all reactions.
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It's thermo.. so I just posted it in the physics forums

but.. a free energy diagram is supposed to represent G right?

We normally conclude whether a rxn is endo/exothermic depending on whether the product is at a "lower" or higher energy than the reactants just by looking at the diagram

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But how can we do that? especially if Delta G = Delta H - (T * Delta S)
Free energy depends on Entropy and Temperature as well

A "negative" change in free energy surely does not necessarily mean an exothermic reaction... but somehow, we are able to conclude whether something is exo/endo simply by looking at a free energy diagram.. how?
 

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The diagram you have there doesn't have any numbers on it, but if it did it would be valid for only one set of initial conditions.

I'm not sure I understand your last sentence. A negative delta G is exothermic because it means energy is released. The initial hump there doesn't have anything to do with if the final result is exothermic or endothermic - it is just the required activation energy (in this case, it looks like the energy required to disassociate the constituents of the compound).
 
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First of all, let's clarify what a free energy diagram represents. It is a graph that shows the change in free energy (ΔG) of a reaction as it progresses from reactants to products. This means that the x-axis represents the progress of the reaction, while the y-axis represents the change in free energy. The shape of the curve on the diagram can tell us a lot about the nature of the reaction.

Now, to address your question about how we can determine if a reaction is endo/exothermic just by looking at a free energy diagram, it's important to remember that the change in free energy (ΔG) is directly related to the enthalpy change (ΔH) and the entropy change (ΔS) through the equation ΔG = ΔH - TΔS. This means that the shape of the curve on the free energy diagram is influenced by both ΔH and ΔS.

If the reaction is exothermic (releases heat), then the enthalpy change (ΔH) will be negative. This means that the curve on the free energy diagram will slope downwards as the reaction progresses, indicating a decrease in free energy. On the other hand, if the reaction is endothermic (absorbs heat), then the enthalpy change (ΔH) will be positive and the curve on the diagram will slope upwards, indicating an increase in free energy.

However, as you mentioned, free energy also depends on entropy (ΔS) and temperature (T). If the reaction has a positive entropy change (ΔS), then the curve on the diagram will slope downwards even if the reaction is endothermic. This is because the increase in entropy contributes to a decrease in free energy. On the other hand, if the reaction has a negative entropy change (ΔS), then the curve will slope upwards even if the reaction is exothermic, because the decrease in entropy contributes to an increase in free energy.

In summary, we can determine if a reaction is endo/exothermic by looking at the shape of the curve on a free energy diagram, taking into consideration both the enthalpy change (ΔH) and the entropy change (ΔS). It is important to note that a negative change in free energy does not always mean an exothermic reaction, as it also depends on the entropy change.
 

FAQ: Free Energy Diagrams: Understand Endo/Exothermic Reactions

1. What are free energy diagrams and why are they important in understanding endo/exothermic reactions?

Free energy diagrams are graphical representations of the energy changes that occur during a chemical reaction. They show the relationship between the energy of the reactants and products, as well as the activation energy required for the reaction to occur. These diagrams are important in understanding endo/exothermic reactions because they illustrate whether a reaction is exothermic (releases energy) or endothermic (absorbs energy).

2. How do free energy diagrams differ from reaction coordinate diagrams?

While free energy diagrams plot the energy changes of a reaction, reaction coordinate diagrams plot the progress of the reaction over time. Free energy diagrams also take into account the activation energy and the overall change in enthalpy, while reaction coordinate diagrams only show the energy changes of the reactants and products.

3. How are endothermic and exothermic reactions represented on a free energy diagram?

Endothermic reactions are represented by an increase in free energy from the reactants to the products, with the activation energy being higher than the energy of the reactants. Exothermic reactions, on the other hand, are represented by a decrease in free energy from the reactants to the products, with the activation energy being lower than the energy of the reactants.

4. Can free energy diagrams predict the spontaneity of a reaction?

Yes, free energy diagrams can predict the spontaneity of a reaction. If the overall change in free energy is negative, the reaction is spontaneous. If the overall change in free energy is positive, the reaction is non-spontaneous.

5. How can the transition state of a reaction be identified on a free energy diagram?

The transition state of a reaction is represented by the highest point on the free energy diagram, also known as the peak of the activation energy. It is the point at which the reactants have absorbed enough energy to reach the activated state and progress to form the products.

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