Free will and Emmy Noether's theorem of time invariant systems

In summary, the conversation revolves around the connection between Emmy Noether's proof of conservation of energy and the concept of free will. The argument presented suggests that since the laws of the universe are time invariant and brain states are just energy transfers, there is no room for free will. The idea that the laws of physics would have to constantly change for free will to exist is also discussed. The poster asks if anyone has seen this argument before and solicits thoughts and comments.
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Hey all,

Since first learning about Emmy Noether's proof that time invariant laws of physics imply conservation of energy, I can't shake the idea that this is the argument against the notion of free will. Here is my argument:

By Noether's first theorem, whenever the laws are invariant in time, energy is conserved where those laws govern.
The universe's laws have so far been observed to be time invariant.
Brain states are the superposition of all the smaller individual energy states.
Transitions from anyone brain state to another is just the transfer of energy.
Since it's energy transfer, it is conserved and obeys a completely causal relationship.
QED no free will.

Additionally, for there to be free will, wouldn't the laws of physics have to be constantly changing, inside each and every one of our heads for each free will action to actually be free will? Any time they aren't changing then the system is deterministic and there couldn't be free will.

Thoughts, comments... has anyone seen this argument before? Thanks,

Jacob B
 
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FAQ: Free will and Emmy Noether's theorem of time invariant systems

1. What is free will?

Free will is the concept that individuals have the ability to make choices and decisions that are not predetermined by any external factors. It is the belief that humans have control over their actions and can act independently without being influenced by outside forces.

2. What is Emmy Noether's theorem of time invariant systems?

Emmy Noether's theorem of time invariant systems is a mathematical theorem that states that for every symmetry in a system, there exists a corresponding conservation law. In other words, if a physical system remains unchanged over time, there will be a corresponding quantity that remains constant.

3. How do free will and Emmy Noether's theorem relate to each other?

Free will and Emmy Noether's theorem both pertain to the concept of causality and the idea that our actions are not predetermined. While free will deals with personal agency, Emmy Noether's theorem deals with the laws of nature and how they remain constant over time.

4. Can free will be scientifically proven?

The concept of free will is a philosophical and psychological concept and cannot be scientifically proven. It is a matter of personal belief and interpretation.

5. How does Emmy Noether's theorem impact our understanding of time and causality?

Emmy Noether's theorem provides a mathematical foundation for the concept of time invariance, which is a fundamental principle in physics. It also helps us understand the relationship between symmetries and conservation laws, which are crucial in understanding causality in physical systems.

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