Freon filled balloons go flat QUICKLY! Why?

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In summary, Freon filled balloons go flat quickly due to the small size of Freon gas molecules, which allows them to escape through the balloon material more rapidly than air. This results in a faster loss of pressure and causes the balloons to deflate sooner.
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Party balloons filled with Freon 12 go flat in a few hours, while helium takes two days. How can those larger molecules manage that (and they aren't even bosons)?
Years ago, I filled some latex party balloons with Freon 12. I haven't repeated the experiment with the Freon 134 that is available nowadays. It was fun to throw them around because Freon is so much heavier than air--you can throw them across the room and they land on the floor and stay there.
The first one went flat in about two hours. I of course assumed that the balloon had a very tiny leak or that I had tied the knot incorrectly, so I made a few more, along with some filled with air as experimental controls. The air-filled ones lasted days, as expected, but the Freon-filled ones again went nearly flat in two hours.
I know that chlorinated and fluorinated molecules have very unreactive surfaces, so you expect them to not be easily adsorbed onto solid surfaces, thus blocking nanopores. But helium is even less reactive--it can penetrate steel--and the single atom is certainly smaller than the Freon molecule. How does the Freon manage to escape so quickly?
 
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It is not only passing through nanopores, it is also about being dissolved in the rubber and then escaping on the other side.
 
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Querulous One said:
(and they aren't even bosons)?
Why do you say that? Two chlorines pair, and two fluorines pair, and carbon-12 is a boson, so the whole molecule is a boson.

(But I believe Borek is correct)
 

FAQ: Freon filled balloons go flat QUICKLY! Why?

Why do Freon filled balloons go flat quickly?

Freon is a gas that has a smaller molecular size compared to helium or air, which allows it to escape through the balloon material more quickly. The permeability of the balloon's material plays a significant role in the rate at which the gas escapes, leading to faster deflation.

What is Freon and why is it used in balloons?

Freon is a brand name for a class of chemicals known as chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs) that were commonly used as refrigerants. In the context of balloons, it can provide a lighter-than-air effect, but its use has decreased due to environmental concerns regarding ozone depletion.

How does the temperature affect the rate at which Freon escapes?

The rate of gas escape from a balloon can be influenced by temperature. As temperature increases, the kinetic energy of the gas molecules also increases, leading to a higher rate of diffusion through the balloon material, causing it to go flat even faster.

Are there better alternatives to Freon for filling balloons?

Yes, helium is a popular alternative to Freon for filling balloons. Helium is non-toxic, non-flammable, and has a larger molecular size than Freon, which helps it stay in the balloon longer. Additionally, other gases like air can also be used, though they do not provide lift.

What materials are balloons typically made of that affect gas retention?

Balloons are commonly made from latex or mylar (foil). Latex balloons are more permeable and allow gases to escape more quickly, while mylar balloons are less permeable and can retain gases for a longer time, which is why they tend to stay inflated longer than latex balloons.

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