Friction with induced coil and magnetic force

In summary, the conversation discusses a problem involving two parallel conducting wires, a magnetic field, and an electrically conductive bar. The goal is to determine the speed of the bar as it moves along the rails. Equations and attempts at a solution are provided, but it is discovered that the induced emf from the moving wire was not included in the calculations. The correct answer is found by including this term.
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Homework Statement


As shown in the attached figure, two rails of conducting wire,M and N, run parallel to each other on a horizontal plane and are separated by distance l. The rails are in a magnetic field of magnetic flux density B that is in the vertically upward direction. An electrically conductive bar of mass m is placed on the rails, perpendicular to their length. When a battery of electromotive force E and negligible internal resistance is connected to the rails, the bar begins to slide along the top of the rails. The coefficient of kinetic friction between the bar and the rails is μ'. The part of the bar between the rails has electrical resistance R. The electrical resistance of the rails is negligible.

The bar undergoes linear uniform motion with a speed of v, determine v.


Homework Equations


E = [itex]\frac{I}{R}[/itex] ...(1)
E = [itex]\frac{ΔBA}{Δt}[/itex] = Blv ...(2)
ƩFx=0 (bar undergoes linear uniform motion with a speed of v) ...(3)
FB=IlB ...(4)
f = μ'N ...(5)
ƩFy=0 ..(6)

The Attempt at a Solution



I wrote the FBD as seen in attached figure, thus (3) becomes
ƩFx=0
FB=f
substitute (4) and (5); IlB=μ'N ... (7)
substitute (1) for I and from (6) I know N=mg

So, (7) is ElB = μ'mgR ..(8)
Using (2); B2l2v=μ'mgR
∴v =[itex]\frac{μ'mg}{(Bl)^2}[/itex]

But I think I miss something. Does anybody tell me what?? I try to find it because my answer was wrong

I appreciate all kinds of any help :!)
Thankss
 

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I think I got the same ! what makes you think you got it wrong?... what answer have you been given?
 
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The answer is v = [itex]\frac{EBl-μ'mgR}{(Bl)^2}[/itex],, so I think I miss something
 
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I think I have it.
Force on the wire = BIL = μmg (moving at constant velocity)

The moving wire generates an induced emf = e and I = (E-e)/R

e = BLv
If you make all the substitutions you get their answer.
Hope you can work it through.
 
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Thank you truesearch :))

I can work through it,,

Now I knew that I miss the term of induced emf by moving wire

In next problem I will consider more and more carefully :))

Thanks a lot

IIK*JII
 
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I did the same! Forgot to include the emf induced by the moving wire...it is called the "back emf"...good question !
 

FAQ: Friction with induced coil and magnetic force

What is friction with induced coil and magnetic force?

Friction with induced coil and magnetic force is a phenomenon where an induced electric current is generated in a coil when it moves through a magnetic field. This current creates a force that opposes the motion of the coil, resulting in friction.

How does friction with induced coil and magnetic force affect everyday objects?

This phenomenon is commonly seen in everyday objects such as electric motors and generators. Friction with induced coil and magnetic force can also be used in technologies like magnetic brakes, which use the opposing force to slow down or stop moving objects.

What factors affect the strength of friction with induced coil and magnetic force?

The strength of this friction depends on the speed of the coil, the strength of the magnetic field, and the number of turns in the coil. Additionally, the material of the coil and the magnetic field can also impact the strength of the friction.

Can friction with induced coil and magnetic force be beneficial?

Yes, friction with induced coil and magnetic force can be beneficial in many applications. It can be used to generate electricity in generators and can also be utilized in magnetic bearings to reduce friction and increase efficiency.

How does friction with induced coil and magnetic force relate to Newton's third law of motion?

Friction with induced coil and magnetic force follows Newton's third law, which states that for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. The induced current in the coil is the reaction to the action of the coil moving through the magnetic field, resulting in the opposing force of friction.

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