“Fundamental University Physics” by Alonso and Finn - out of date?

In summary, the article discusses whether "Fundamental University Physics" by Alonso and Finn is outdated in the context of modern physics education. It examines the book's content, pedagogy, and relevance in light of advancements in the field and contemporary teaching methods. The authors argue that while some material may seem dated, the foundational principles and problem-solving approaches remain valuable for students. However, they advocate for integrating updated resources and technologies to enhance learning and keep pace with current scientific developments.
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I was going through “Fundamental University Physics” by Alonso and Finn, and I’m wondering how much of it is out of date. Obviously the tone and style is from the 60s, but if I were to go through all 3 volumes in depth, how much of the info would be inaccurate/wrong based on what we know today? Thanks.
 
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Newton's Laws have not changed in centuries. E&M and thermo, not in a century and a half. What exactly are you worried about?
 
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Mainly book 3 on quantum mechanics. That said, we see other physics texts get new additions every so often to correct mistakes and update the text. Does Alonso and Finn suffer because it is ‘out of date’?
 
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The Schroedinger Equation is not yet a century old. It's only 97.
 
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Textbook publishers sometimes release new editions because they (or the authors) think they are genuine improvements from a pedagogical point of view. More often, it's because they want to protect their revenue stream. They change the content enough to change the page numbers and exercise numbers, so that professors have to update their syllabi to reflect the new editions. This is more likely in the US, where it is the custom for professors to produce detailed syllabi with day-to-day lists of page numbers for reading assignments, and exercise numbers for homework which is to be submitted for grading/marking. This makes it difficult or impossible for students to use old editions.
 
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It is one of the best introductory series textbook on physics. It uses calculus from the onset, and almost everything is derived from first principal. You are extremely lucky to have these books.
 
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I cannot say for sure how much of Alonso and Finn is out of date, but I did run across it in a library one day. It looks like a good textbook. I was raised with Halliday/Resnick, and I thought this was instructive, but just browsing, I cannot say Alonso/Finn is worse.
As far as learning out of date knowlege, as long as you have an mind open to new supportable facts and theories, you need not fear a little out of date knowlege. After 50 years, it is clear to me that many facts that were presented, as well as subtle details in the theories need to be modified, but not dispensed with. As other members of the forum have indicated, physical laws endure throughout time.
One note though. It may be possible when you do the problems you may not get quite the same numerical values the back of the book gives. (If Alonso and Finn has an answer key). I found several years ago in using a old pre-1980 version of Halliday and Resnick, that I often got a slightly different answer. Luckily though, I was well versed and did the same numerical evaluation with a slide rule rather than a electronic calculator. Many time the slide rule evaluation agreed with the answer key. Keep in mind, the answer key in the old books were created in a era when the slide rule "ruled" the Earth.
 
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FAQ: “Fundamental University Physics” by Alonso and Finn - out of date?

Is "Fundamental University Physics" by Alonso and Finn still relevant for current physics studies?

While "Fundamental University Physics" by Alonso and Finn is a classic text that covers fundamental concepts in physics comprehensively, some of the material may be considered out of date given the rapid advancements in the field. However, the principles and foundational theories it covers remain relevant and useful for understanding basic physics.

What topics in "Fundamental University Physics" by Alonso and Finn are considered outdated?

Some of the topics in the book that may be considered outdated include the treatment of certain modern physics concepts, such as quantum mechanics and relativity, which have seen significant advancements since the book's publication. Additionally, the experimental techniques and examples used might not reflect the latest technology and methodologies in the field.

Can "Fundamental University Physics" by Alonso and Finn be used as a primary textbook for current university courses?

While it can still be used as a supplementary resource, most current university courses might opt for more recent textbooks that include the latest discoveries, updated problem sets, and modern pedagogical approaches. However, it remains a valuable reference for understanding the historical context and development of fundamental physics concepts.

Are there newer editions or updates available for "Fundamental University Physics" by Alonso and Finn?

As of my knowledge cutoff in 2023, there have not been any newer editions or major updates to "Fundamental University Physics" by Alonso and Finn. Students and educators looking for the most current information may need to refer to more recent textbooks and scientific literature.

How does "Fundamental University Physics" by Alonso and Finn compare to modern physics textbooks?

"Fundamental University Physics" by Alonso and Finn is highly regarded for its clear explanations and thorough coverage of basic physics principles. However, modern textbooks often provide more up-to-date content, interactive problem-solving tools, and digital resources that enhance learning. Modern texts also tend to incorporate recent advancements in physics and provide a more integrated approach to teaching the subject.

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