Geodesic Upper Half Plane help

In summary: However, this method will only give you the correct geodesics if A=1, which is not the case in this situation. Therefore, you will need to use a different method to find the geodesics. In summary, the problem lies in using the incorrect equation for minimizing \frac{1+y'(x)^2}{y^2}, which leads to an incorrect solution for the geodesics.
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The metric is [tex]ds^2=\frac{dx^2+dy^2}{y^2}.[/tex] I have used the Euler-Lagrange equations to find the geodesics, and my equations are [tex]\dot{x}=Ay^2,[/tex] [tex]\ddot{y}+\frac{\dot{x}^2-\dot{y}^2}{y}=0.[/tex] I cannot seem to find the first integral for the second equation. I know it is [tex]\dot{y}=y\sqrt{1-Ay^2},[/tex] but I can't seem to derive it. The only trick I currently know for doing these type of things is to multiple by [tex]\dot{y}[/tex] and then integrate, but that doesn't work here. Can anyone offer some guidance?

I tried it a slightly different way, but it doesn't seem to work for some reason:
Instead of parametrizing, x=x(t), y=y(t) and minimizing, I just minimized [tex]\frac{1+y'(x)^2}{y^2}.[/tex] Using the Euler-Lagrange equations, I get [tex]y''y-y'^2+1=0,[/tex] and [tex]y(x)=sinh(x)[/tex] is a solution to this...but the geodesics are suppose to be half circles, and this doesn't give me a half circle..I am quite confused.
 
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The issue here is that you are not solving the correct equation. The Euler-Lagrange equation you wrote down is \ddot{y}+\frac{\dot{x}^2-\dot{y}^2}{y}=0, which is not the same as the equation you wrote down for minimizing \frac{1+y'(x)^2}{y^2}. The correct equation for minimizing \frac{1+y'(x)^2}{y^2} is \ddot{y}+\frac{1}{y}=0.Once you have the correct equation, you can solve it by integrating twice and using the appropriate boundary conditions to obtain the solution y(x)=sinh(x). From this, you can then determine the first integral of the equation by multiplying by \dot{y} and integrating. This gives you the result \dot{y}=y\sqrt{1-Ay^2}, where A is a constant of integration.
 

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What is the Geodesic Upper Half Plane?

The Geodesic Upper Half Plane is a mathematical concept that represents the upper half of a two-dimensional space known as the hyperbolic plane. It is a fundamental structure in the field of hyperbolic geometry and is often used in the study of complex analysis.

How is the Geodesic Upper Half Plane defined?

The Geodesic Upper Half Plane is defined as the set of all points in the upper half plane that lie on geodesic lines. Geodesic lines are the shortest paths between two points in the hyperbolic plane, and they are analogous to straight lines in Euclidean geometry.

What are the applications of the Geodesic Upper Half Plane?

The Geodesic Upper Half Plane has many applications in mathematics and physics. It is used to study the behavior of complex functions, such as the Riemann zeta function, and to model physical systems with hyperbolic geometry, such as black holes in general relativity.

How is the Geodesic Upper Half Plane represented mathematically?

The Geodesic Upper Half Plane can be represented mathematically using the Poincaré half-plane model, which maps the upper half plane onto the unit disk. This representation allows for easier calculations and visualizations of geometric properties in the hyperbolic plane.

Are there any real-world examples of the Geodesic Upper Half Plane?

While the Geodesic Upper Half Plane is a purely mathematical concept, it has been used to model various real-world phenomena. For example, it has been used to study the distribution of prime numbers and the behavior of financial markets. In addition, the concept of the upper half plane has also been applied in the design of certain architectural structures.

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