Getting to this 4th order O.D.E.

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In summary, the conversation discusses equations related to the second moment of area and a fourth-order ordinary differential equation. There is confusion about a term involving t in one of the equations and a request for help with the final derivation of equation (4). The particular solution to the O.D.E is expected to be y(x) = k4(Rδ/E)x4/24, but it is not seen in equation (4). Clarification and assistance are needed to understand these equations.
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Hi,

Try as I might, I cannot understand how equation (3) with the k4 term was derived. In equation (2), w is a function of t. But in the k4 term after equation (3), there is a t2 term in the denominator. Should it not be a t1 only? What am I missing? Please help.

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Steve
 

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The screenshot is not so clear. are these the equations?
##w = \sigma_x \frac{l}{R}=\frac{\sigma w t}{R} - \frac{Ety}{R^2} ##

and the substitution used is
##\frac{d^2y}{dx^2}=\frac{M}{D}##
##D=\frac{Et^2}{12(1-\mu^2)}##
##w=\frac{d^2M}{dx^2}=D\frac{d^4y}{dx^4}##

This leads indeed to a different answer with t instead of ##t^2##, but I do not know where the error is. It could be in the answer or in the substitution rule. You might need to check the second moment of area for your specific geometry to see if it is correct.
 
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Hi,

I think the copy of the paper is unclear. I think there is a t3 term in D. Sorry for the confusion...

BUT, I could use your help with the final derivation of equation (4)-see attached. I know that the particular solution to the 4th order O.D.E should look something like this:
y(x) = k4(Rδ/E)x4/24
But, I don't see that in equation (4). What am I missing?

Regards,

Steve
 

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What is a 4th order O.D.E.?

A 4th order O.D.E. stands for a fourth-order ordinary differential equation. It is a type of differential equation that involves the derivatives of a function up to the fourth order.

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