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Are the world's glaciers melting? I expect some are melting, some are growing, and all are moving, but all together, what is going on?
You know what, I hear this ALL THE TIME, what is it? What's with this? Why is this phrase so preeminent?I probably won't be alive by then, but I think out future will be punished for our stupid mistakes.
Did you read this? http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=021706GCharlesP said:Similarly new reports of warming issue, from the recent Greenland and Antarctic shockers
Are they happening? Or is the media blowing them up? Did you read... http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=50969 ?The scientific community in big name magazines like Physics Today and Scientific American won't even hear of any dissent on these issues.
Rather they give credence to claims of ancient man-made warming probably a thousand times weaker than the present releases.
Did you read this? http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=021706G
? Did you read... http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=50969 ?
CharlesP said:TCS daily looks like an industry toy - not a refereed journal,
And the Science Forums is a joke.
If you can't show me something from a refereed journal and then the proof that even THAT has been agreed upon then forget it. There are too many lie factories out there like the Discovery Institute, Cato,
Heritage. That business about more snow falling on Greenland looks like a red herring.
I am not going to waste time playing cat and mouse with every dumb piece of nonsense you bring up. The fact is that the icecaps are both melting bigtime. The permafrost is melting. Glaciers are melting almost everywhere. There is every indication that the Earth's serface is warming as a whole. I'll change my mind when the IPCC gives up and the famous journals all publish reports explaining why they were all wrong. Not likely to happen.Andre said:You give an excellent example of the most abused ad hominem by the scaremongers: "Funded by the industry so he is wrong". And indeed the most effective shield to ever let the truth prevail "lalala I can't hear you, you're a crook you're lying". Let's assume that Pat Michels is wrong indeed, then your heroes, who say the same here are wrong too! So who is right and by what funding?
CharlesP said:I am not going to waste time playing cat and mouse with every dumb piece of nonsense you bring up. The fact is that the icecaps are both melting bigtime. The permafrost is melting. Glaciers are melting almost everywhere. There is every indication that the Earth's serface is warming as a whole. I'll change my mind when the IPCC gives up and the famous journals all publish reports explaining why they were all wrong. Not likely to happen.
I don't listen to people as much when they say that I'm flat-out wrong, tell me what to think, and leave out totally the why I'm wrong and you're right part—because they didn't hear what I said. Kind of like how I bet you didn't click on either one of the links.I am not going to waste time playing cat and mouse with every dumb piece of nonsense you bring up. The fact is that the icecaps are both melting bigtime. The permafrost is melting. Glaciers are melting almost everywhere. There is every indication that the Earth's serface is warming as a whole.
I'm not sure even that would make you think twice.I'll change my mind when the IPCC gives up and the famous journals all publish reports explaining why they were all wrong. Not likely to happen.
Glaciers melt when the temperature is above freezing, causing the ice to melt and turn into water. This can also happen when there is increased sunlight, which can warm up the glacier's surface and cause it to melt.
Glaciers grow when there is more snowfall than melting. As the snow accumulates, it compresses and turns into ice, gradually increasing the size and weight of the glacier.
Melting glaciers contribute to rising sea levels. As the glaciers melt, the water from the melted ice flows into the oceans, causing an increase in sea level. This can also lead to coastal flooding and erosion.
Glaciers move due to their own weight and gravity. As the ice at the top of the glacier melts, the weight of the ice above pushes it forward. Additionally, the weight of the glacier causes it to slide downhill.
The long-term effects of melting glaciers are significant. This can lead to changes in ocean currents, sea level rise, and changes in precipitation patterns. It can also impact wildlife and ecosystems that rely on glaciers for water and habitat.