GMm/r^2 for r=0? Force at Center of Object?

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In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of a hollow sun and the potential for infinite force between two masses sharing the same center of mass. It is determined that there would be no force between the two due to the cancellation of forces from different parts of the sun. The concept is also referenced in a novel by Larry Niven.
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This is probably a stupid question - but let's say you have a hollow Sun (M is hollow), with another mass in the center, so M and m share the same center of mass, the distance between the centers is zero.

Would GMm/r^2 be infinite in this case?

The force at the center of any object - if you define your system to be the center chunk of matter, and how that center chunk of matter sees the rest of the planet?

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The 1/r^2 expression is only valid for the gravitational force on an object outside a spherically symmetric mass distribution.

Your expression would go to infinity, but it would not be describing the force between the objects.
 
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The force is, in fact, zero. Look up the Shell Theorem.

Larry Niven wrote a novel called Ringworld which featured a ring around a star. He had to write a followup describing the giant ion engines the ring had to keep itself centred on its star because this fact was brought to his attention after publication...
 
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JLT said:
This is probably a stupid question - but let's say you have a hollow Sun (M is hollow), with another mass in the center, so M and m share the same center of mass, the distance between the centers is zero.

Would GMm/r^2 be infinite in this case?

The force at the center of any object - if you define your system to be the center chunk of matter, and how that center chunk of matter sees the rest of the planet?

((o))

sorry... I did not get enough sleep last night, that's my excuse!
actually their will be no force acting because all the forces from different part of the sun will cancel out.
 

FAQ: GMm/r^2 for r=0? Force at Center of Object?

What does "GMm/r^2 for r=0" represent?

This represents the force of gravity between two objects, where one object has a mass of M, the other has a mass of m, and they are separated by a distance of r. The value of r being 0 indicates that the objects are at the same point in space.

How is the force at the center of an object calculated using GMm/r^2 for r=0?

To calculate the force at the center of an object, you would plug in the mass of the object for M, and the mass of the other object for m. The value of r being 0 means that the distance between the two objects is 0, so the formula would simplify to (GMm/0^2), which is undefined. This means that the force at the center of an object is infinite.

Why is there an undefined value for the force at the center of an object?

This is due to the fact that the formula for the force of gravity assumes that the objects have a non-zero distance between them. When the distance is 0, the formula breaks down and cannot give a meaningful result.

Can the force at the center of an object ever be zero?

No, the force at the center of an object is always infinite as long as the distance between the two objects is 0. This is because the closer the objects are to each other, the stronger the force of gravity becomes.

How does the force at the center of an object affect the motion of the objects?

The force at the center of an object would cause the two objects to accelerate towards each other with an infinite acceleration. This would result in the objects colliding with each other, unless some other force is acting to counteract the force of gravity.

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