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matt621 said:Generally the "need" comes from the desire to answer the question: Is the universe created or did it just happen.
What? Nothing to do with that (at least in my case and so many other scientist I work with).
If a UFT can be found, their is a reasonable next question: Why? Pretty much everyone wants to have a firm belief system. There are atheist that are sure of their position just like there are theists that are sure of their position. Then there is everyone else. They "need" to know if God exists or not.
What? What are you talking about?
What God do you mean?
We have created millions of totally different gods (and many other imaginary things) through the ages. Some of the concepts we create are useful, some others not that useful.
The creation of the concept of gods/deities by some humans may be an interesting thing (and some people like Ramachandran and others, try to explain it based on neuroscience knowledge), but as a useful concept to explain objective phenomena in a rational way...it has failed big time. Not useful at all.
Atheists are sure he/she/it does not exist, but their belief is not more assured than the theist that says he/she/it does exist. Everyone else just wants to know. I think that "need" comes from trying to answer the 2nd question, "Why?"
The problem is this: the universe seems to be ordered. That flys in the face of atheists.
What?
(Which many if not most scientists claim to be.) But can order really come out of chaos (or nothing) by it's own accord? Science does it's best to prove it can, but for ever "hit" there is a corresponding "miss." So the point is that it's an unanswerable question. I personally believe Pi is the answer.
My goodness, this is gold!
Pi cannot be solved. It's a never ending quest but it's ultimately unknowable.
We could even start a movie here...
For me, that proves God does exist because it proves the unknowable in an ordered universe. If the universe really created itself, then everything should be knowable. (Hence the "need" for a UFT.) The fact that there are unknowable elements in the universe seem to indicate that it's meant to be that way. It's a paradox by design.
Twice.
My goodness!
I don't know what to tell you man. I think it would help you a lot to study some things about Science and Philosophy, but I am not even sure about that anymore (many people I've met say they are better living without knowledge... :-) ).