Gravitation Potential Energy -- Questions about calculating the sign of GPE

In summary, gravitational potential energy (GPE) is a measure of the work done against gravitational forces when an object is moved within a gravitational field. The sign of GPE can vary depending on the chosen reference point: it is typically considered positive when an object is above this reference point and negative when below it. Understanding the conventions for measuring and calculating GPE is essential for solving problems related to energy in gravitational systems.
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When does one use mgh0-mghf, and when does one use mghf-mg0? Is all gravitation potential energy necessarily negative?
Relevant Equations
E=(m/2)(vf^2-v0^2)+mg(hf-h0)
PE=mg(h0-hf)
I believe that this is due to context of application, but now, I'm starting to doubt myself. For example, a helicopter lifting itself has positive PE change. I really don't intuitively understand how this works. Can someone kindly explain this to me?
 
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Relative to the ground, GPE (gravitational potential energy) is always positive. A change in GPE can be positve or negative.
 
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Quantum Psi Inverted said:
Homework Statement: When does one use mgh0-mghf, and when does one use mghf-mg0? Is all gravitation potential energy necessarily negative?
Those are two different questions.

Assuming the 0 and f are supposed to indicate initial and final heights, mghf-mg0 gives you the (signed) change in PE. mgh0-mghf gives you the loss in PE, obviously.

All "potentials" are in principle relative, i.e. it is up to you to choose where the zero potential is. However, a convention commonly used, both for GPE and electrostatic, is that the potential at infinity is zero. That makes all other GPEs negative.
At a greater height, the potential is less negative, so is greater than at a lower height.
 
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FAQ: Gravitation Potential Energy -- Questions about calculating the sign of GPE

What is gravitational potential energy (GPE) and how is its sign determined?

Gravitational potential energy (GPE) is the energy an object possesses due to its position in a gravitational field. The sign of GPE is typically negative when considering a system with two masses because GPE is defined as zero at an infinite separation. As the masses come closer, the GPE becomes more negative, indicating that work would be required to separate them to infinity.

Why is gravitational potential energy often negative?

Gravitational potential energy is often negative because it is defined relative to the zero point at infinite separation between two masses. As the masses move closer together, the potential energy decreases, leading to a negative value. This negative sign indicates that energy must be supplied to the system to move the masses apart to an infinite distance, overcoming the gravitational attraction.

How do you calculate the gravitational potential energy between two point masses?

The gravitational potential energy (U) between two point masses (m1 and m2) separated by a distance (r) is given by the formula: U = -G * (m1 * m2) / r, where G is the gravitational constant. The negative sign indicates that the potential energy is lower when the masses are closer together.

Does the sign of GPE change if we consider different reference points?

Yes, the sign of GPE can change depending on the chosen reference point. In most gravitational problems, the reference point is set at infinity, where GPE is zero. If a different reference point is chosen, the GPE values will shift accordingly, but the physical behavior of the system remains consistent. The relative differences in GPE are what matter for calculations involving energy changes.

How does the sign of GPE affect the total energy of a system?

The sign of GPE affects the total energy of a system by contributing to the overall energy balance. For a bound system, such as a satellite orbiting a planet, the total mechanical energy (kinetic plus potential) is negative, indicating a stable, bound state. The negative GPE ensures that the total energy is less than zero, signifying that the system is gravitationally bound and energy must be added to break the system apart.

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