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in a nutshell what are the differences between gravitational and electromagnetic waves?
So would it be accurate to say that you already know a lot about EM waves and are just now learning about Gravitational waves? Or are you just now learning about both?accdd said:Dale, for example:
-I read that gravitational waves have a relationship with the quadripole, while electromagnetic waves have a relationship with the dipole.
-I have read that gravitational waves permanently distort spacetime
-I have read that there are differences related to polarization
-are there phenomena that happen with gravitational waves and do not happen with electromagnetic waves and vice versa?
I am studying relativity from Schutz's book.
Yes, the minimum order of gravitational radiation is quadrupole, and gravitational waves are emitted for a system with a changing quadrupole moment of the sources. For EM it is dipole radiation and changing dipole moments of the sources.accdd said:I read that gravitational waves have a relationship with the quadripole, while electromagnetic waves have a relationship with the dipole.
That doesn’t have any relationship to EM waves that I can see, but no, I don’t think that is a correct statement.accdd said:-I have read that gravitational waves permanently distort spacetime
Yes, EM waves can be horizontally or vertically polarized which are 90 deg apart, but GW can be plus or cross polarized which are 45 deg apart.accdd said:I have read that there are differences related to polarization
Where?accdd said:I read
Where?accdd said:-I have read
Where?accdd said:-I have read
This is not a valid reference. Do you have a link to an actual peer-reviewed paper?accdd said:quanta magazine "gravitational waves should permanently distort space-time"
This is not a valid reference either.accdd said:wikipedia
Wikipedia is OK to reference as long as it is consistent with the professional scientific literature. I have certainly referenced it before.PeterDonis said:This is not a valid reference either.
You can start with the guidelines listed in the PF Rules link (see INFO at the top of the page):accdd said:I see. But I am a student, I am not yet able to read a scientific paper. How do I know if a reference is valid?
Greg Bernhardt said:Acceptable Sources:
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References that appear only on http://www.arxiv.org/ (which is not peer-reviewed) are subject to review by the Mentors. We recognize that in some fields this is the accepted means of professional communication, but in other fields we prefer to wait until formal publication elsewhere. References that appear only on viXra (http://www.vixra.org) are never allowed.
Sure you can. You might not be able to follow all of one, but it will still give you a much better basis for asking questions than a pop science article.accdd said:I am a student, I am not yet able to read a scientific paper.
Agreed, but in order to assess that, we need to have an actual link to a specific Wikipedia article. In this case we don't, we just have "wikipedia". (And it's listed after Griffiths, which is a much better reference anyway than any Wikipedia article.)Dale said:Wikipedia is OK to reference as long as it is consistent with the professional scientific literature.
So you don't even try? That's just sad.accdd said:I am not yet able to read a scientific paper.
@vanhees71 -- Would you consider authoring an Insights article based on this post?vanhees71 said:Just to answer the physical question.
There are many similarities with electromagnetic waves and gravitational waves but also some important differences. One can understand them best when first looking at the weak-field approximation of the gravitational waves, because then we deal with linear equations of motion as in the case of the electromagnetic field.
Summer?vanhees71 said:I can do that, but it'll take some time. Today the Summer Semester started :-)...
apparently ends in mid-July...caz said:vanhees71 said:I can do that, but it'll take some time. Today the Summer Semester started :-)...
Summer?
The main difference between gravitational and electromagnetic waves is their source. Gravitational waves are produced by the acceleration of massive objects, while electromagnetic waves are created by the acceleration of charged particles.
Gravitational waves travel through space as ripples in the fabric of space-time, while electromagnetic waves travel through space as oscillating electric and magnetic fields.
Yes, gravitational and electromagnetic waves can interact with each other. This is known as the "gravitational-electromagnetic interaction" and it is a key concept in understanding the behavior of black holes and other astrophysical phenomena.
Gravitational waves have much longer wavelengths than electromagnetic waves. For example, the longest wavelength of a gravitational wave detected so far is about 10,000 times longer than the longest wavelength of visible light.
Yes, there are practical applications for both gravitational and electromagnetic waves. Electromagnetic waves are used in various technologies such as radio communication, radar, and medical imaging. Gravitational waves are also being studied for potential applications in precision measurements and communication systems.