Green's theorem and divergence integrals

In summary, the physical meaning of divergence integrals and curl integrals is related to fluid motion, but they do not have a specific meaning as mathematics is not physics. Green's theorem can be used to calculate areas by choosing appropriate functions and using its formula. The area of a region can be found by integrating 1 over the region itself.
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Can someone please explain to me what the physical meaning of the divergence integrals and curl integral is? In the problems I have come across, they ask us to calculate areas and etc.. using Green's theorem. Which one should I use in that case?

Thank-you very much for your help!

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I will try to restrain myself! Mathematical concepts do NOT HAVE a specific "physical meaning" because mathematics is not physics. It is true, that the names "divergence" and "curl" come from physics- or more correctly, fluid motion. If [itex]\vec{f}(x,y,z)[/itex] is the velocity vector of a fluid at point (x,y,z), the div f measures the tendency of the flud to "diverge" (move away from) some central point. Similarly, curl f measures the tendency to circulate around some central point.

However, you say "they ask us to calculate area and etc. using Green's theorem".

Well, Green's theorem says
[tex]\int\int \left[\frac{\partial Q(x,y)}{\partial x}-\frac{\partial P}{\partial y}\right]dxdy= \oint P(x,y)dx+ Q(x,y)dy[/tex]
which doesn't use either "div" or "grad"!

You know, surely, [itex]\int\int dx dy[/itex], taken over a given region in the xy-plane, is the area of that region. To "use Green's theorem" to find the area of a region, you just have to use functions P(x,y) and Q(x,y) such that
[tex]\frac{\partial Q(x,y)}{\partial x}- \frac{\partial P(x,y)}{\partial y}= 1[/tex].
One obvious choice is P(x,y)= 0, Q(x,y)= x. Integrating [itex]\int x dy[/itex] around the boundary of a region will, according to Green's theorem, be the same as integrating 1 over the region itself- and so will give you the area of the region.
 
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Thanks a ton!

Thank-you for your help. I really appreciate it!:smile:
 

FAQ: Green's theorem and divergence integrals

What is Green's theorem?

Green's theorem is a fundamental theorem in vector calculus that relates the line integral around a simple closed curve in the plane to a double integral over the region enclosed by the curve. It is named after the mathematician George Green.

What is the purpose of Green's theorem?

The purpose of Green's theorem is to provide a way to calculate a line integral over a closed curve by converting it into a double integral over the enclosed region. This often makes the calculation easier and more efficient.

What is the difference between conservative and non-conservative vector fields?

A conservative vector field is one in which the line integral between two points is independent of the path taken between those points. This means that the work done by the field is only dependent on the initial and final positions. In contrast, a non-conservative field has a line integral that is path-dependent.

How is Green's theorem related to the divergence theorem?

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