Having some trouble understanding a u-substitution

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In summary, the conversation discusses the u-substitution method for solving integrals, where an integral with respect to x can be transformed into an integral with respect to a related variable u. Examples are provided to demonstrate this technique and a specific problem is discussed in detail. The conversation also touches on the use of dx/du in u-substitution and clarifies the use of substitution for u and du only.
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i have reached a chapter in my pure mathematics text that introduces u-substitution as a method for solving integrals where in general if f(x) = dy/dx, an integral with respect to x may be transformed into an integral with respect to a related variable u such that: ∫ f(x) dx = ∫ [f(x) dx/du]du = y.

A number of examples are carefully illustrated to demonstrate this technique. There is one problem in particular whereby the worked solution is as follows;

Find; ∫ x√(3x-1)dx

Solution;

let: u = √(3x-1), thus.. dx/du = 2u/3 and let: x=1/3(u^2 +1).

→ ∫ [x√(3x-1) dx/du]du = ∫ [1/3(u^2+1)u 2u/3]du
= ∫ [2/9(u^4) + 2/9(u^2)]du

The problem i have here is that when i separate the variables and integrate the [dx/du = 2u/3] i get x=1/3(u^2) + c, and not x=1/3(u^2 +1) as shown in the book. i understand the further simplification from here and i can see that setting the constant of integration to one (c=1) to give x=1/3(u^2 +1) is perhaps some kind of trick that allows one to get the second term in terms of the derivative of x, w.r.t u? but I'm unable to figure out how the intuition for this works out, after all could that constant not be any real number?

I have not seen this kind of substitution before. i only solved for and substituted for u and du so far. Can anyone explain to me what kind of u substitution this is?

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The problem i have here is that when i separate the variables and integrate the [dx/du = 2u/3] i get x=1/3(u^2) + c, and not x=1/3(u^2 +1) as shown in the book.

There is no integration involved (yet) in that step. If you substitute u for √(3x - 1) then you also need to rewrite the x preceding it, so you need to solve your definition u = √(3x - 1) for x:
u = √(3x - 1)
u² = 3x - 1
u² + 1 = 3x
1/3(u² + 1) = x

Now substitute this in x√(3x - 1) everywhere, where of course √(3x - 1) just gives you u again.
 
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Thanks for pointing that out CompuChip! Your explanation is sound. i guess i was solving it as a differential when i really didn't need to, just was not obvious to me at first. Silly mistake really! What variation of u-substitution is being used here? i have not seen the use of [dx/du]du before, when carrying out u-substituions in the past i have been substituting for u and du only and simplifying, i just feel like I've missed something here. thanks again for sharing your insight
 
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The dx/du is used to transform dx into du, because you need to integrate w.r.t the new variable as well.

If you treat the derivative as an ordinary fraction - which you really shouldn't! But it often works - you could write
##\frac{dx}{du} \, du = \frac{dx}{\not{du}} \not{du} = dx##
This leads to notation like "Let u = sin(x), then du = cos(x) dx" that you may encounter in less rigorous texts.

More formally, if you go back to the definition of integration, you can get it from the chain rule.

in the past i have been substituting for u and du only
Can you be a bit more specific on how you have "substituted for du"? Because I'm sure that you have used exactly this procedure but you probably weren't aware of it. E.g. if u = 3x - 1 you would simply get du = dx up to a constant pre-factor which you can do without formally computing du/dx.
 
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Thanks for your explanation, i understand what you are saying here. I can see now how is arises naturally from applying the chain rule..

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Can you be a bit more specific on how you have "substituted for du"? Because I'm sure that you have used exactly this procedure but you probably weren't aware of it. E.g. if u = 3x - 1 you would simply get du = dx up to a constant pre-factor which you can do without formally computing du/dx.

You're absolutely right, i was using this method the whole time. it was just not obvious at the time since i was only computing functions up to a constant pre-factor as you've kindly pointed out. This resolves the confusion i was having. Thanks for your help, it is greatly appreciated!
 

FAQ: Having some trouble understanding a u-substitution

What is a u-substitution?

A u-substitution is a technique used to simplify integrals by substituting a variable with a different variable, usually denoted as u. This allows for easier integration and can help solve more complex integrals.

When should I use a u-substitution?

A u-substitution is typically used when an integral involves a function within a function, such as sin(3x). It can also be used when an integral involves a product of functions, such as x * ex.

How do I choose the right u for my substitution?

To choose the right u, look for factors in the integral that can be substituted with a new variable. Generally, the best u-substitution is one that will cancel out with the derivative of the function inside the integral.

Can I use a u-substitution for definite integrals?

Yes, a u-substitution can be used for both indefinite and definite integrals. When using it for a definite integral, make sure to adjust the limits of integration accordingly.

What are some common mistakes to avoid when using a u-substitution?

One common mistake is forgetting to substitute the du, or differential, when rewriting the integral in terms of u. Another mistake is choosing the wrong u, which can lead to a more complex integration. Lastly, make sure to adjust the limits of integration when using a u-substitution for a definite integral.

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