Having trouble applying squeeze theorem

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In summary, the squeeze theorem, also known as the sandwich theorem, is a mathematical tool used to prove the limit of a function. It states that if two other functions, known as the "squeeze functions", are both approaching the same limit as a given function, then the given function must also approach that same limit. There can be various reasons why someone may have trouble applying the squeeze theorem, such as not fully understanding the concept or not correctly identifying the squeeze functions. The key to successfully applying the squeeze theorem is choosing the correct squeeze functions, which should be simpler than the given function and have limits that are easy to evaluate. However, the squeeze theorem can only be applied to functions that satisfy the necessary conditions, including the squeeze functions having the
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Homework Statement


Find the limit, if it exists, or show that the limit does
not exist:

lim (x,y) -> (0,0) [(y^2*sin(x)^2)/(x^4+y^4)]

(According to the textbook the limit 'does not exist')


The Attempt at a Solution



Since the function is approaching the origin [(0,0)]:

test path along y-axis:
let x = 0
lim (y) -> (0) [0/y^4] = 0

test path along x-axis:
let y = 0
lim (x) -> (0) [0/x^4] = 0

This is not efficient enough to prove that the limit is 0, therefore investigate further possibly using the squeeze theorem.

I know that [(y^2)/(x^4+y^4)] <= 1 (but i don't know what to do with this information)

0 <= [(y^2*sin(x)^2)/(x^4+y^4)] <= **

** Here is where i got stuck. I do not know what function fits the criteria and how to look for it. Please excuse me I just learned this theorem recently and I'm hoping someone can help me.
 
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So you now know that the limit is zero if you approach ##(0,0)## from the x-axis (or y-axis). Can you find another path that will give you a nonzero limit?
 
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So far I've tried:

let y = x
let y = x^2
let y = x^3
let y = sqrt(x)

and got 0 for all. Is it possible to solve using the squeeze theorem?
 
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canon23 said:
So far I've tried:

let y = x
let y = x^2
let y = x^3
let y = sqrt(x)

and got 0 for all. Is it possible to solve using the squeeze theorem?

Try ##y=x## again and show your work.
 
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let y = x

lim (x,x) -> (0,0) [(x^2*sin(x)^2)/(x^4+x^4)]
= lim (x) -> (0) [(x^2*sin(x)^2)/(2*x^4)]
= lim (x) -> (0) [(x^2*sin(x)^2)/(2*x^2*x^2)]
= lim (x) -> (0) [(sin(x)^2)/(2*x^2)]
= 0
 
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canon23 said:
let y = x

lim (x,x) -> (0,0) [(x^2*sin(x)^2)/(x^4+x^4)]
= lim (x) -> (0) [(x^2*sin(x)^2)/(2*x^4)]
= lim (x) -> (0) [(x^2*sin(x)^2)/(2*x^2*x^2)]
= lim (x) -> (0) [(sin(x)^2)/(2*x^2)]
= 0

Have another look at your last equality. Are you sure that
\begin{equation*}
\lim_{x \rightarrow 0} \frac{ \sin^2 x}{2x^2} = 0?
\end{equation*}
 
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Yes you're right I would get 0/0 (undefined) and the limit does not exist. The other paths I mentioned early turn out to be the same. Thanks for your help. Could this be solved using the squeeze theorem?
 
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canon23 said:
Yes you're right I would get 0/0 (undefined) and the limit does not exist. The other paths I mentioned early turn out to be the same. Thanks for your help. Could this be solved using the squeeze theorem?

No. The limit
\begin{equation*}
\lim_{x \rightarrow 0} \frac{\sin^2 x}{2x^2}
\end{equation*}
DOES exist. It is just not zero! You should compute it. You could use the fact that you know (?) ##\lim_{x \rightarrow 0} \frac{\sin x}{x}## or use something powerful like a Taylor expansion or l'Hopital.
 
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canon23 said:
Could this be solved using the squeeze theorem?
Not really. The squeeze theorem allows you to prove that a function has a limit, but in this case, you're trying to show that the limit of a given function does not exist.
 

FAQ: Having trouble applying squeeze theorem

What is the squeeze theorem and how does it work?

The squeeze theorem, also known as the sandwich theorem, is a mathematical tool used to prove the limit of a function. It states that if two other functions, known as the "squeeze functions", are both approaching the same limit as a given function, then the given function must also approach that same limit.

Why am I having trouble applying the squeeze theorem?

There can be various reasons why someone may have trouble applying the squeeze theorem. Some possible reasons could be not fully understanding the concept or not correctly identifying the squeeze functions. It is important to carefully analyze the given function and its limits before attempting to apply the squeeze theorem.

How do I determine the appropriate squeeze functions to use?

The key to successfully applying the squeeze theorem is choosing the correct squeeze functions. These functions should be simpler than the given function and have limits that are easy to evaluate. It is helpful to graph all three functions to visually see how they relate to each other and determine the appropriate squeeze functions.

Can the squeeze theorem be used for all functions?

No, the squeeze theorem can only be applied to functions that satisfy the necessary conditions. These conditions include the squeeze functions having the same limit and the given function being "squeezed" between the two squeeze functions. It is important to check if these conditions are met before using the squeeze theorem.

Are there any tips for using the squeeze theorem effectively?

Some tips for using the squeeze theorem effectively include carefully analyzing the given function and its limits, choosing appropriate squeeze functions, and double-checking the necessary conditions. It can also be helpful to practice applying the squeeze theorem to various functions to become more familiar with the concept and improve understanding.

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