Heat Needed to Boil 237mL Water vs Starting Car

In summary, the question is how much more heat is used to boil 237 mL of water as opposed to starting the car. The answer is about 216,000 J.
  • #1
Mango12
49
0
a) how much more heat is used to boil 237 mL of water as opposed to starting the car?

b) what major concept/finding was overlooked while solving this problem?

I think this has something to do with delta H = mc(delta t) but idk
 
Mathematics news on Phys.org
  • #2
Mango12 said:
a) how much more heat is used to boil 237 mL of water as opposed to starting the car?

Starting what car?

Mango12 said:
...idk

You are on a math forum doing things that have some merit, not texting your buddy about some he said/she said drama that happened in the parking lot outside the high school at last night's sock hop or posting selfies and other such tomfoolery on social media...please don't use text abbreviations when posting here. (Shake)

http://unaccomplishedangler.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Oldmanshakefist.jpg
 
  • #3
MarkFL said:
Starting what car?
You are on a math forum doing things that have some merit, not texting your buddy about some he said/she said drama that happened in the parking lot outside the high school at last night's sock hop or posting selfies and other such tomfoolery on social media...please don't use text abbreviations when posting here. (Shake)

my apologies. And I believe it was a car in a previous problem..but I don't have my paper with me to give the exact problem and it's very confusing.
 
  • #4
Mango12 said:
my apologies. And I believe it was a car in a previous problem..but I don't have my paper with me to give the exact problem and it's very confusing.

When you gather together all the information relating to and necessary for working this problem, then please post it in this thread. Until then, there's not much anyone can do to help. :)
 
  • #5
MarkFL said:
When you gather together all the information relating to and necessary for working this problem, then please post it in this thread. Until then, there's not much anyone can do to help. :)

okay..I will. But a side note..he said in order to solve this I need to know 2 key properties of water...do you have an idea of what he means?
 
  • #6
Mango12 said:
a) how much more heat is used to boil 237 mL of water as opposed to starting the car?

b) what major concept/finding was overlooked while solving this problem?

I think this has something to do with delta H = mc(delta t) but idk
How much more heat is given off by heating 237mL of water with 216,000J than is used to start the car? I don't have the value of the energy to start the engine, but does anyone know how I could go about solving this if I did?
 
  • #7
Mango12 said:
a) how much more heat is used to boil 237 mL of water as opposed to starting the car?

b) what major concept/finding was overlooked while solving this problem?

I think this has something to do with delta H = mc(delta t) but idk

Mango12 said:
How much more heat is given off by heating 237mL of water with 216,000J than is used to start the car? I don't have the value of the energy to start the engine, but does anyone know how I could go about solving this if I did?

Hi Mango12! ;)

That actually seem to be different questions.
In your original problem statement we were boiling 237 mL of water.
That means we have:
$$V = 237\text{ mL} \\ \Delta t = 100^\circ\text C - t_{initial}$$
If we know what $t_{initial}$ is, we can calculate the heat required to boil the water.
Can we perhaps assume we start at room temperature ($20^\circ \text C$)?
Or is there perhaps an initial temperature given when starting the car?In your last response we seem to have a different question with:
$$V = 237\text{ mL} \\ \Delta H = 216,000\text{ J}$$
Or is that $\Delta H$ perhaps the heat given off when starting the car?Additionally we have the formula:
$$\Delta H = mc\Delta t$$
where $\Delta H$ is the change in heat, $m$ is the mass, $c$ is the specific heat capacity of water, and $\Delta t$ is the change in temperature.
Do you perchance have $c$ as a constant?

To calculate $m$, we can use:
$$m = \rho V$$
where $\rho$ is the density of water. Do you have that as a constant?After that we can apply the formula.

We'll get to (b) afterwards, since there are some conditions when applying the formulas.
 
  • #8
I like Serena said:
Hi Mango12! ;)

That actually seem to be different questions.
In your original problem statement we were boiling 237 mL of water.
That means we have:
$$V = 237\text{ mL} \\ \Delta t = 100^\circ\text C - t_{initial}$$
If we know what $t_{initial}$ is, we can calculate the heat required to boil the water.
Can we perhaps assume we start at room temperature ($20^\circ \text C$)?
Or is there perhaps an initial temperature given when starting the car?In your last response we seem to have a different question with:
$$V = 237\text{ mL} \\ \Delta H = 216,000\text{ J}$$
Or is that $\Delta H$ perhaps the heat given off when starting the car?Additionally we have the formula:
$$\Delta H = mc\Delta t$$
where $\Delta H$ is the change in heat, $m$ is the mass, $c$ is the specific heat capacity of water, and $\Delta t$ is the change in temperature.
Do you perchance have $c$ as a constant?

To calculate $m$, we can use:
$$m = \rho V$$
where $\rho$ is the density of water. Do you have that as a constant?After that we can apply the formula.

We'll get to (b) afterwards, since there are some conditions when applying the formulas.

Hi! Thanks for replying, but I figured it out on my own before I saw your reply.
 

FAQ: Heat Needed to Boil 237mL Water vs Starting Car

How much heat is needed to boil 237mL of water?

The amount of heat needed to boil 237mL of water depends on the initial temperature of the water, the pressure, and any impurities present. However, on average, it takes approximately 83.9 kJ of heat to boil 237mL of water at sea level.

Is the amount of heat needed to boil 237mL of water the same as starting a car?

No, the amount of heat needed to boil water and start a car are two different processes and require different amounts of heat. Boiling water requires a specific amount of heat to reach its boiling point, while starting a car involves converting chemical energy into heat and mechanical energy.

Can the heat needed to boil water be used to start a car?

No, the heat needed to boil water cannot be used to start a car. As mentioned before, starting a car involves converting chemical energy into heat and mechanical energy, which is not the same process as boiling water.

How does the initial temperature of water affect the amount of heat needed to boil it?

The initial temperature of water affects the amount of heat needed to boil it because the water must first reach its boiling point before it can start to boil. The higher the initial temperature, the less heat needed to reach the boiling point compared to water at a lower initial temperature.

Why does the pressure affect the amount of heat needed to boil water?

Pressure affects the amount of heat needed to boil water because it changes the boiling point of water. At higher pressures, the boiling point of water increases, meaning more heat is needed to reach that higher boiling point. This is why it takes longer to boil water at higher altitudes where there is less atmospheric pressure.

Similar threads

Back
Top