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Well first off, I am confused about what the book says earlier and what the actual answers are in the back of the book on homework problems. I thought I understood the book, but it seems like I don't.
The book has:
"Consider a particle whose location is known within a width of L along the x axis. We then know the position of the particle to within a distance Δx =< L /2. The uncertainty principle specifies that Δp is limited by
Δp >= h / (4piΔx) >= h / (2 L pi)
Because p = mv, we have Δp = mΔv, and
Δv = Δp / m >= h / (2mL pi)...
Kmin = (pmin)^2 / 2m >= (Δp)^2 / 2m >= h^2 / (8m L^2 * pi^2)"
Here is where I am confused. It seems like later in the book, they have Δx =< L in order to do calculations. So my question is, is Δx the radius away from a point or is it the diameter? From the above, I assumed that Δx is less than or equal to the radius. But in the problem below, I did that and I was off by (1/4) on my answer...
A neutron is confined in a deuterium nucleus (deuteron) of diameter 2 x 10^-15 m. Use the energy-level calculation of a one-dimensional box to calculate the neutron's minimum kinetic energy. What is the neutron's minimum kinetic energy according to the uncertainty principle?
Equations
Δx Δp >= h / (4pi)
For a one dimensional box:
En = n^2 * h^2 / (8 m L^2) where L is the length of the box
Constants:
h = 6.6261 x 10^-34 J * s = 4.1357 x 10^-15 eV * s
mass of neutron = 1.6749 x 10^-27 kg = 939.57 MeV / c^2
For the one-dimensional box method I get:
E1 = h^2 / 8 m L^2 = 51.1 MeV
Okay, the book got 51.1 MeV, so I am happy with this. Now,
Δx Δp >= h / (4pi)
We know m and Δx
I took Δx = radius of atom and so I obtain:
Δp = 5.273 x 10^-20 kgm/s
So,
E = (Δp)^2 / 2m = 5.18 Mev
Wrong!
Book gets 1.30 Mev. If you divide my answer my 4 you get the book's answer (because of a difference of 1/2 in the Δp)
So ok, so Δx = L. Then what in the world was the book talking about above with Δx = L / 2? I guess I could just remember to do this in each calculation, but I am either misunderstanding something with the problem, or misunderstanding something with what the text explained. Am I being retarded or something and it's so obvious or what?
Also, I derived a formula with Δx = L and I obtained:
Kmin = h^2 / (32 m pi^2 L^2)
If you use this on the above problem, you get 1.30 MeV! The correct answer! Is the book incorrect or what happened?
*Edit: I was wondering, would I ever need to consider a relativistic case? If so, I wasn't exactly sure if I could simply have (ΔE)^2 = (Δp)^2 * c^2 + (E0)^2, but rather have to write it out, etc. Seems like it would be troublesome. I don't think we need to be able to do that in my class, but I am just curious and was wondering how that would work out if someone doesn't mind explaining that to me as well.
The book has:
"Consider a particle whose location is known within a width of L along the x axis. We then know the position of the particle to within a distance Δx =< L /2. The uncertainty principle specifies that Δp is limited by
Δp >= h / (4piΔx) >= h / (2 L pi)
Because p = mv, we have Δp = mΔv, and
Δv = Δp / m >= h / (2mL pi)...
Kmin = (pmin)^2 / 2m >= (Δp)^2 / 2m >= h^2 / (8m L^2 * pi^2)"
Here is where I am confused. It seems like later in the book, they have Δx =< L in order to do calculations. So my question is, is Δx the radius away from a point or is it the diameter? From the above, I assumed that Δx is less than or equal to the radius. But in the problem below, I did that and I was off by (1/4) on my answer...
Homework Statement
A neutron is confined in a deuterium nucleus (deuteron) of diameter 2 x 10^-15 m. Use the energy-level calculation of a one-dimensional box to calculate the neutron's minimum kinetic energy. What is the neutron's minimum kinetic energy according to the uncertainty principle?
Homework Equations
Equations
Δx Δp >= h / (4pi)
For a one dimensional box:
En = n^2 * h^2 / (8 m L^2) where L is the length of the box
Constants:
h = 6.6261 x 10^-34 J * s = 4.1357 x 10^-15 eV * s
mass of neutron = 1.6749 x 10^-27 kg = 939.57 MeV / c^2
The Attempt at a Solution
For the one-dimensional box method I get:
E1 = h^2 / 8 m L^2 = 51.1 MeV
Okay, the book got 51.1 MeV, so I am happy with this. Now,
Δx Δp >= h / (4pi)
We know m and Δx
I took Δx = radius of atom and so I obtain:
Δp = 5.273 x 10^-20 kgm/s
So,
E = (Δp)^2 / 2m = 5.18 Mev
Wrong!
Book gets 1.30 Mev. If you divide my answer my 4 you get the book's answer (because of a difference of 1/2 in the Δp)
So ok, so Δx = L. Then what in the world was the book talking about above with Δx = L / 2? I guess I could just remember to do this in each calculation, but I am either misunderstanding something with the problem, or misunderstanding something with what the text explained. Am I being retarded or something and it's so obvious or what?
Also, I derived a formula with Δx = L and I obtained:
Kmin = h^2 / (32 m pi^2 L^2)
If you use this on the above problem, you get 1.30 MeV! The correct answer! Is the book incorrect or what happened?
*Edit: I was wondering, would I ever need to consider a relativistic case? If so, I wasn't exactly sure if I could simply have (ΔE)^2 = (Δp)^2 * c^2 + (E0)^2, but rather have to write it out, etc. Seems like it would be troublesome. I don't think we need to be able to do that in my class, but I am just curious and was wondering how that would work out if someone doesn't mind explaining that to me as well.
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