Help double integral over a region question

In summary, Kidzonety has been struggling with finding the double integral of a specific function over a given region. They have tried different methods and always received -11.576 as the answer, which was marked incorrect by the autograder. They are hoping to learn what they did wrong and receive guidance. Another user, tiny-tim, suggests converting to polar coordinates and offers further suggestions, leading Kidzonety to discover their mistake.
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I've tried this question with many different ways and i always got -11.576, but the autograder always marked it wrong. so hopefully i really did something wrong and you can teach me about it.

find the double integral of -3*x*y - 3*y over the region bounded by x^2 + y^2 = 9, y = 3x, and y = 0.

Thanks very much!
 
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Hi kidzonety! :smile:

(try using the X2 tag just above the Reply box :wink:)

The obvious way is to convert to polar coordinates (though of course you could also do it in x and y) …

I expect you've already tried that, but anyway show us how you did it, and then we'll see what went wrong, and we'll know how to help! :smile:
 
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tiny-tim said:
Hi kidzonety! :smile:

(try using the X2 tag just above the Reply box :wink:)

The obvious way is to convert to polar coordinates (though of course you could also do it in x and y) …

I expect you've already tried that, but anyway show us how you did it, and then we'll see what went wrong, and we'll know how to help! :smile:

Okay.
I just first converted the function to polar one which became -3*r3*cos(o)*sin(o) - 3*r2*sin(o) drdo
and just double integrate this over 0 <= r <= 3, and arctan(3) <= o <= pi/2.
 
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Hi kidzonety! :smile:

(have a theta: θ and an integral: ∫ and a ≤ :wink:)
kidzonety said:
Okay.
I just first converted the function to polar one which became -3*r3*cos(o)*sin(o) - 3*r2*sin(o) drdo
and just double integrate this over 0 <= r <= 3, and arctan(3) <= o <= pi/2.

ok (except it's 0 ≤ θ ≤ arctan(3)) … now split that into two integrals, ∫∫-3*r3*cosθ*sinθ drdθ and ∫∫-3*r2*sinθ drdθ,

which are now just ∫-3*r3dr*∫cosθ*sinθdθ and ∫-3*r2dr∫sinθdθ :smile:
 
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tiny-tim said:
Hi kidzonety! :smile:

(have a theta: θ and an integral: ∫ and a ≤ :wink:)


ok (except it's 0 ≤ θ ≤ arctan(3)) … now split that into two integrals, ∫∫-3*r3*cosθ*sinθ drdθ and ∫∫-3*r2*sinθ drdθ,

which are now just ∫-3*r3dr*∫cosθ*sinθdθ and ∫-3*r2dr∫sinθdθ :smile:


hey tiny-tim,
Ive found my mistake.
Thanks very much for your suggestions and advice!
 

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