Help me confirm I got the right answer: finding the torque F

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In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of moment and how it relates to a specific point on a line. The moment of a vector about a point is calculated by taking the cross product of the vector and the difference between the point and the chosen point on the line. The unit vector along the line is also determined and used to find the moment of the vector about the line by taking the projection of the cross product onto the unit vector. Finally, it is mentioned that the specific point on the line does not affect the result, as an extra term will cancel out when taking the dot product.
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Can someone just go over this to see if I got it correct, I got this wrong in my midterm and I'm trying to redo it to make sure I got it correct the second time.
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what tripped me up was getting the n unit vector, I got 1/sqrt40 originally, but I think I got it right this time.
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I think you have the general idea, although it's not quite correct. Take any point on the line, say ##\mathbf{r}_0 = (0,9,0)##, as you chose. The moment of ##\mathbf{F}## about this point is
\begin{align*}
\mathbf{G} = (\mathbf{r} - \mathbf{r}_0) \times \mathbf{F} = (6, -9, -1) \times (2,0,6) = (-54, -38, 18)
\end{align*}The unit vector along the line, as you wrote, is ##\mathbf{n} = \frac{1}{\sqrt{58}} (7,0,-3)##. The moment of ##\mathbf{F}## about the line is the projection of ##\mathbf{G}## onto ##\mathbf{n}##, which is a scalar:
\begin{align*}
\mathbf{G} \cdot \mathbf{n} = \frac{1}{\sqrt{58}} (-54, -38, 18) \cdot (7,0,-3) = \dots
\end{align*}(It doesn't matter which point on the line you choose, because if you consider the point, say, ##\mathbf{r}_0 + \alpha \mathbf{n}##, then you have an extra term ##-\alpha \mathbf{n} \times \mathbf{F}## in the moment which vanishes upon taking the scalar product with ##\mathbf{n}##.)
 
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oh shoot, so it would be 1/sqrt58 (-378, 0,-54)?
 
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maguss182 said:
oh shoot, so it would be 1/sqrt58 (-378, 0,-54)?
Not quite, because the result of a dot product is a number, i.e. ##(a_1,a_2,a_3) \cdot (b_1,b_2,b_3) = a_1 b_1 + a_2 b_2 + a_3 b_3##.
 
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right got it, thanks!
 

FAQ: Help me confirm I got the right answer: finding the torque F

How do I calculate torque using force and distance?

To calculate torque, you need to multiply the force applied by the distance from the pivot point. The formula for torque is: torque (τ) = force (F) x distance (r).

What is the unit of measurement for torque?

The unit of measurement for torque is Newton-meters (Nm) in the SI system. In the Imperial system, it is measured in foot-pounds (ft-lb).

Can torque be negative?

Yes, torque can be negative. A negative torque indicates that the force is acting in the opposite direction of the rotation.

How does the angle of application affect torque?

The angle of application does not affect the magnitude of torque, but it does affect the direction. If the force is applied at a 90-degree angle to the lever arm, it will produce maximum torque. If the angle is less than 90 degrees, the torque will be reduced.

What is the difference between torque and moment of force?

Torque and moment of force are often used interchangeably, but technically, torque is a type of moment of force. Moment of force refers to the rotational effect of a force, while torque specifically refers to the rotational effect caused by a force acting at a distance from the pivot point.

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