Help understanding this integral solution using trig substitution please

In summary, the request seeks assistance in comprehending the solution of an integral that employs trigonometric substitution, indicating a need for clarification on the method and its application in solving the integral.
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Memo
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Homework Statement
∫[x^2*dx/sqrt(9+x^2)]
Relevant Equations
sqrt(1+tan^2(a))~sqrt(a^2+U^2)
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Here's the answer:
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Could you explain the highlighted part for me? Thank you very much!
 
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Memo said:
Homework Statement: ∫[x^2*dx/sqrt(9+x^2)]
Relevant Equations: sqrt(1+tan^2(a))~sqrt(a^2+U^2)

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Here's the answer:
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Could you explain the highlighted part for me? Thank you very much!
If ##x = 3\tan(t)##, then ##dx = 3\sec^2(t)dt = 3(\tan^2(t) + 1)dt##
The part where they have ##\frac{3dt}{\cos^2(t)}## isn't very helpful, IMO. Better to just replace ##\sec^2(t)## with ##1 + \tan^2(t)##.
 
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Mark44 said:
The part where they have ##\frac{3dt}{\cos^2(t)}## isn't very helpful
That was just from the step of taking the derivative of sin/cos.
 
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FactChecker said:
That was just from the step of taking the derivative of sin/cos.
I guess aka ##sec^2 tdt##
 
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FactChecker said:
That was just from the step of taking the derivative of sin/cos.
Why not just go directly to the derivative of the tangent function?
 
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Mark44 said:
Why not just go directly to the derivative of the tangent function?
I don't know. Your guess is as good as mine. Maybe they wanted to keep the required background to just derivative of sin, cos, and the quotient rule.
 
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Mark44 said:
Why not just go directly to the derivative of the tangent function?
The derivative of ##tan(x)## is ##\frac1{cos^2(x)}=sec^2(x)##.
 
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martinbn said:
The derivative of ##tan(x)## is ##\frac1{cos^2(x)}=sec^2(x)##.
Yes, I realize that. My point was in explaining why ##x = 3\tan(t)## implies that ##dx = 3\sec^2(t)dt = 3(1 + \tan^2(t))dt##.
 
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Mark44 said:
Yes, I realize that. My point was in explaining why ##x = 3\tan(t)## implies that ##dx = 3\sec^2(t)dt = 3(1 + \tan^2(t))dt##.
What was problem with the explanation ##dx = \frac{3dt}{cos^2(t)} = 3(1 + \tan^2(t))dt##.
 
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martinbn said:
What was problem with the explanation ##dx = \frac{3dt}{cos^2(t)} = 3(1 + \tan^2(t))dt##.
Assuming someone knows the derivatives of all six circular trig functions, why would someone write ##\frac{d\tan(t)}{dt}## as ##\frac 1 {\cos^2(t)}## and not just go directly to ##\sec^2(t)##?
I'm not saying what was written was incorrect, just that it was more complicated than was necessary.
 
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Mark44 said:
Assuming someone knows the derivatives of all six circular trig functions, why would someone write ##\frac{d\tan(t)}{dt}## as ##\frac 1 {\cos^2(t)}## and not just go directly to ##\sec^2(t)##?
I'm not saying what was written was incorrect, just that it was more complicated than was necessary.
Where I come from ##sec## and ##csc## are not used at all. For someone like me the derivative of tangent is one over cosine squared.
 
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martinbn said:
Where I come from ##sec## and ##csc## are not used at all. For someone like me the derivative of tangent is one over cosine squared.
I have taught college-level mathematics for 20+ years. Every calculus textbook I've ever seen presents all six circular trig functions as well as their derivatives.
 
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Mark44 said:
I have taught college-level mathematics for 20+ years. Every calculus textbook I've ever seen presents all six circular trig functions as well as their derivatives.
Yes, and when I went to the US and thought calculus, I learned the notations for ##\frac1{\cos(x)}## and ##\frac1{\sin(x)}##. But where I grew up there were no such functions.
 

FAQ: Help understanding this integral solution using trig substitution please

What is trig substitution and why is it used in solving integrals?

Trig substitution is a technique used to simplify integrals by substituting trigonometric functions for certain algebraic expressions. It is particularly useful when dealing with integrals involving square roots of quadratic expressions. By using trigonometric identities, the integral can often be transformed into a simpler form that is easier to evaluate.

How do I choose the appropriate trigonometric substitution?

The choice of trigonometric substitution depends on the form of the expression under the square root:- For expressions of the form √(a^2 - x^2), use x = a sin(θ).- For expressions of the form √(a^2 + x^2), use x = a tan(θ).- For expressions of the form √(x^2 - a^2), use x = a sec(θ).

What are the steps involved in performing a trigonometric substitution?

The steps involved are:1. Identify the appropriate trigonometric substitution based on the form of the integrand.2. Substitute the trigonometric function for the variable and simplify the integral.3. Integrate with respect to the new variable.4. Use trigonometric identities to simplify the result.5. Substitute back the original variable using the inverse trigonometric function.

How do I handle the differential dx when performing a trigonometric substitution?

When you perform a trigonometric substitution, you must also change the differential. For example, if x = a sin(θ), then dx = a cos(θ) dθ. This new differential must be included in the integral to correctly transform it into the new variable.

Can you provide an example of solving an integral using trigonometric substitution?

Sure! Let's solve the integral ∫ √(1 - x^2) dx.1. Use the substitution x = sin(θ), so dx = cos(θ) dθ.2. The integral becomes ∫ √(1 - sin^2(θ)) cos(θ) dθ.3. Simplify using the identity 1 - sin^2(θ) = cos^2(θ), so the integral becomes ∫ cos^2(θ) dθ.4. Use the identity cos^2(θ) = (1 + cos(2θ))/2 to further simplify: ∫ (1 + cos(2θ))/2 dθ.5. Integrate to get (θ/2) + (sin(2θ)/4) + C.6. Substitute back using θ = arcsin(x) to get (arcsin(x)/2) + (x√(1 - x^2)/2) + C.

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