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- Homework Statement
- ∫[x^2*dx/sqrt(9+x^2)]
- Relevant Equations
- sqrt(1+tan^2(a))~sqrt(a^2+U^2)
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Could you explain the highlighted part for me? Thank you very much!
If ##x = 3\tan(t)##, then ##dx = 3\sec^2(t)dt = 3(\tan^2(t) + 1)dt##Memo said:Homework Statement: ∫[x^2*dx/sqrt(9+x^2)]
Relevant Equations: sqrt(1+tan^2(a))~sqrt(a^2+U^2)
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Could you explain the highlighted part for me? Thank you very much!
That was just from the step of taking the derivative of sin/cos.Mark44 said:The part where they have ##\frac{3dt}{\cos^2(t)}## isn't very helpful
I guess aka ##sec^2 tdt##FactChecker said:That was just from the step of taking the derivative of sin/cos.
Why not just go directly to the derivative of the tangent function?FactChecker said:That was just from the step of taking the derivative of sin/cos.
I don't know. Your guess is as good as mine. Maybe they wanted to keep the required background to just derivative of sin, cos, and the quotient rule.Mark44 said:Why not just go directly to the derivative of the tangent function?
The derivative of ##tan(x)## is ##\frac1{cos^2(x)}=sec^2(x)##.Mark44 said:Why not just go directly to the derivative of the tangent function?
Yes, I realize that. My point was in explaining why ##x = 3\tan(t)## implies that ##dx = 3\sec^2(t)dt = 3(1 + \tan^2(t))dt##.martinbn said:The derivative of ##tan(x)## is ##\frac1{cos^2(x)}=sec^2(x)##.
What was problem with the explanation ##dx = \frac{3dt}{cos^2(t)} = 3(1 + \tan^2(t))dt##.Mark44 said:Yes, I realize that. My point was in explaining why ##x = 3\tan(t)## implies that ##dx = 3\sec^2(t)dt = 3(1 + \tan^2(t))dt##.
Assuming someone knows the derivatives of all six circular trig functions, why would someone write ##\frac{d\tan(t)}{dt}## as ##\frac 1 {\cos^2(t)}## and not just go directly to ##\sec^2(t)##?martinbn said:What was problem with the explanation ##dx = \frac{3dt}{cos^2(t)} = 3(1 + \tan^2(t))dt##.
Where I come from ##sec## and ##csc## are not used at all. For someone like me the derivative of tangent is one over cosine squared.Mark44 said:Assuming someone knows the derivatives of all six circular trig functions, why would someone write ##\frac{d\tan(t)}{dt}## as ##\frac 1 {\cos^2(t)}## and not just go directly to ##\sec^2(t)##?
I'm not saying what was written was incorrect, just that it was more complicated than was necessary.
I have taught college-level mathematics for 20+ years. Every calculus textbook I've ever seen presents all six circular trig functions as well as their derivatives.martinbn said:Where I come from ##sec## and ##csc## are not used at all. For someone like me the derivative of tangent is one over cosine squared.
Yes, and when I went to the US and thought calculus, I learned the notations for ##\frac1{\cos(x)}## and ##\frac1{\sin(x)}##. But where I grew up there were no such functions.Mark44 said:I have taught college-level mathematics for 20+ years. Every calculus textbook I've ever seen presents all six circular trig functions as well as their derivatives.