Help with 1 quick implicit differentiation problem

In summary, the process of implicit differentiation involves using the product rule and chain rule to differentiate a function where one variable is implicitly a function of another. The appropriate ranges for finding implicit differentiation can vary but a range of -6.28 to 6.28 is suitable for graphing.
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Homework Statement


what is the implicit differentiation ?

Homework Equations



2sin(x)cos(y)=1


The Attempt at a Solution



d/dx[2sin(x)cos(y)]= d/dx[1]

2cos(x)*-sin(y)*dy/dx=0

I haev a bad feeling i did this wrong...
 
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To differentiate 2sin(x)cos(y), you have to use the product rule. You also need to use the chain rule when you differentiate a function of y (where y is assumed to be implicitly a function of x). l'm pretty sure you realized this, since you ended up with a factor of dy/dx, but you forgot the product rule.

After you have differentiated both sides, solve algebraically for dy/dx and you're done.
 
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I also graphed this using a program:

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Are these appropriate ranges to find the implicit differentiation? I'm using this picture so it'll be easier for me to find out what the implicit differentiation of this is.

x and y ranges -6.28 to 6.28 ... are these appropriate figures or can I use a different value that shows it even better ? Thanks in advance.

Edit: Thanks Matt44, give me a sec !
Edit#2:
using the product rule as you suggested (finally makes sense...)
d/dx[2sin(x)cos(y)]=
u= 2sin(x) u'=2cos(x) v= cos(y) v'= -sin(y)*dy/dx
=== 2sin(x)*-sin(y)*dy/dx + cos(y) * 2cos(x)
=== Is the answer dy/dx= -cos(y)*2cos(x)/ -2sin(x)*sin(y) ?

Doesnt look too right ... ><
 
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Cancelling "-2" in numerator and denominator gives dy/dx= cos(x)cos(y)/sin(x)sin(y) and that is exactly right.
 
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thanks hallofivy ! do you think -6.28 and 6.28 are good ranges for x and y ? or should it become something smaller ?

Matt44 and HallsOfIvy . u two are always there to answer my problems haha. thanks a lot :) !
 
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What do you mean by "good ranges"? For a graph? Yes, those will do. The larger you make range the more "hills and valleys" you will see.
 
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sorry for the confusion. yup, that's what i meant . thank you.
 

FAQ: Help with 1 quick implicit differentiation problem

What is implicit differentiation?

Implicit differentiation is a method used in calculus to find the derivative of a function that is not explicitly defined in terms of one variable. It involves differentiating both sides of an equation with respect to the variable of interest and then solving for the derivative.

Why is implicit differentiation useful?

Implicit differentiation allows us to find the derivative of functions that are not easily solvable using standard differentiation rules. This is particularly useful in cases where the function is defined implicitly or when it is difficult to isolate the variable of interest.

Can implicit differentiation be used for any type of equation?

No, implicit differentiation can only be used for equations that are differentiable. This means that the function must be continuous and have a defined derivative at the point of interest.

How do I know when to use implicit differentiation?

Implicit differentiation is typically used when the function is defined implicitly or when it is difficult to solve for the variable of interest using standard differentiation rules. It is also useful when taking the derivative of inverse functions.

What are the steps for solving a quick implicit differentiation problem?

The steps for solving an implicit differentiation problem are:

  1. Differentiate both sides of the equation with respect to the variable of interest.
  2. Use the chain rule and product rule as needed to simplify the equation.
  3. Isolate the derivative on one side of the equation.
  4. Solve for the derivative by substituting in the original equation or given values.

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