Help with deriving an equation (coloumb's law, pith ball charges)

In summary, the conversation discusses a lab in AP Physics which involved determining the charge on a pith ball using the static charge of a fur. The final equation used to calculate the charge is q = 2Lsinθ√((mgtanθ)/k), where q is the charge, θ is the measured angle, m is the average mass of the balls, L is the length of string, and k is a constant. The conversation also mentions the use of free body diagrams and equations for gravitational and electrical fields.
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Homework Statement



A lab we were recently given in AP Physics class contained an equation already derived. This lab was about determining the charge on a pith ball, using the static charge of a fur to charge the balls negatively, so they repel. Finding the angle and distance between the two balls, the electric charge can be determined.

This is the final equation

q = 2Lsinθ√((mgtanθ)/k)

theta is the measured angle in the experiment (in this case 17 degrees)
m is average mass of the two balls : .2620/2
L is the length of string to the pith ball, bascially the height or radius. Pith ball is hanging from a stand. (.1524 meters)

Homework Equations



Fgravitational=Gm1m2/(r^2) Felectricalfield = kq1q2/(r^2)

The Attempt at a Solution



I've got nothing.
 
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rad5brandon said:
I've got nothing.
Can I assume that the angle θ is the average angle between a given strand and the vertical (as opposed to the total angle between both strands)?

The fist place to start is by drawing a free body diagram.

Then work with the x-components and y-components separately. Since nothing is accelerating, the sum of all forces along a given component must be equal to zero. (For example, the y-component of the tension of a given strand must equal the force of gravity from the corresponding ball). Once you have the force equations for both x and y components, you can combine equations and solve for q (assuming that each ball has the same charge q on it).

Another hint: One of the relevant equations you posted was
Fgravitational=Gm1m2/(r^2)
There's no need to make it so complicated. Just use
Fgrav = mg
where m is the mass of the ball, and g ≈ 9.81 m/s2. :wink:
 

FAQ: Help with deriving an equation (coloumb's law, pith ball charges)

1. How do you derive Coloumb's law?

To derive Coloumb's law, we start with the definition of electric force, which is the force exerted between two charged particles. We then use the principles of electrostatics, including the concept of electric fields, to derive an equation that relates the force to the charges and the distance between them. This equation is known as Coloumb's law.

2. What is the equation for Coloumb's law?

The equation for Coloumb's law is F = k(q1q2)/r^2, where F is the electric force, k is the constant of proportionality, q1 and q2 are the charges of the two particles, and r is the distance between them.

3. What is the significance of Coloumb's law?

Coloumb's law is significant because it describes the fundamental relationship between electric charges and the force they exert on each other. It is essential in understanding the behavior of electrically charged particles and is used in many fields such as engineering, physics, and chemistry.

4. How is Coloumb's law related to pith ball charges?

Pith balls are small, lightweight objects that can be easily charged with static electricity. Coloumb's law can be used to calculate the force between two charged pith balls by plugging in the charges and the distance between them into the equation. This allows us to understand and predict the behavior of these charged objects.

5. Can Coloumb's law be applied to point charges only?

No, Coloumb's law can be applied to any electrically charged objects, as long as their sizes are small compared to the distance between them. This means that it can be used to calculate the force between both point charges and larger objects, as long as they are not too large.

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