Help, with finding electron radius for a given condition

In summary, the conversation discusses the classical view of the electron as a purely electric entity and the question of its size if it were a sphere with uniformly distributed charge. The equations E=mc^2, F=qE, F=ma, E_sphere=Q/(2*pi*r*epsilon_0), U=1/2CV^2, and U=qV are mentioned. The conversation also discusses using calculus to calculate the work needed to move charge dq from infinity to the sphere and integrating to find the total work done. The suggested answer for the electron's size is 2.8 fm, which is consistent with Wikipedia but not accepted by masteringPhysics.
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Homework Statement



A classical view of the electron pictures it as a purely electric entity, whose Einstein rest mass energy,E = mc^2 is the energy stored in its electric field.


If the electron were a sphere with charge distributed uniformly over its surface, what radius would it have in order to satisfy this condition? Note: Your answer for the electron's "size" isn't consistent with modern quantum mechanics or with experiments that suggest the electron is a true point particle.



Equations :

E = mc^2
F = qE
F = ma
E_sphere = Q/ (2*pi*r*epsilon_0);
U = 1/2CV^2
U = qV


I am not sure what to equate with E = mc^2 ?
 
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Do you know calculus? If so you could calculate the work needed to move charge dq in from infinity to the sphere that already has charge q against the electric force repelling dq from q. Then you could integrate that to find the total work done in bringing charge q together. I think it will be W = Q^2/(4*pi*epsilon*r). This is what you set equal to m*c^2.
 
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If I do that then :

r = ke^2 / (m * c^2 );

r = 2.8 fm

But its not correct.
 
  • #5
So the answer seems to be right according to wiki, but masteringPhysics, my online h.w
is not accepting it.

The answer should be in form ____ fm, but its not correct? Any ideas.
 
  • #6
Anyone got a clue ?
 

FAQ: Help, with finding electron radius for a given condition

What is the electron radius?

The electron radius, also known as the classical electron radius, is a physical constant that represents the size of an electron in an atom. It is approximately equal to 2.8179 x 10^-15 meters.

How is the electron radius calculated?

The electron radius is calculated using the following formula: re = ke^2/mc^2, where re is the electron radius, k is the Coulomb constant, e is the elementary charge, m is the electron mass, and c is the speed of light.

How does the electron radius change under different conditions?

The electron radius does not change under different conditions as it is a constant value. However, it is important to note that this value is based on the classical model of the electron and may not accurately represent the actual size of an electron in quantum mechanics.

Can the electron radius be measured experimentally?

No, the electron radius cannot be measured experimentally as it is a theoretical value. However, it can be indirectly observed through experiments such as electron scattering.

What is the significance of the electron radius in physics?

The electron radius is significant in understanding the size and behavior of electrons in atoms. It is also used in various equations and theories, such as the Bohr model of the atom, to describe the properties of electrons. Additionally, the electron radius plays a role in the study of quantum mechanics and the fundamental forces of nature.

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