Help with log integration/differntiation

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In summary, log integration and differentiation are mathematical techniques used to manipulate logarithmic functions. These techniques are important in science as they allow us to model and analyze real-world phenomena that follow logarithmic patterns. To integrate a logarithmic function, you can use the rule: ∫ln(x)dx = xln(x) - x + C. Log integration and differentiation can be applied to real-world problems such as population growth, radioactive decay, and pH calculations. However, common mistakes to avoid include forgetting to apply the chain rule and confusing the properties of logarithms.
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I'm having trouble on these two problems. Can anyone give me a step by step explanation on how to do them (or one of them)?

7. Find f'(x), if
f(x) = [tex]\left|\frac {x^2\left((3x + 2)^{\frac {1}{3}}\right)}{(2x - 3)^3}\right|[/tex]

13. Perform the integration:
(a) [tex]\int(x-1)e^{-x^2+2x}dx[/tex]
(b) [tex]\int\frac{1}{x}e^{-2\log_3(x)}dx[/tex]
 
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myanmar said:
I'm having trouble on these two problems. Can anyone give me a step by step explanation on how to do them (or one of them)?

7. Find f'(x), if
f(x) = [tex]\left|\frac {x^2\left((3x + 2)^{\frac {1}{3}}\right)}{(2x - 3)^3}\right|[/tex]
This has nothing to do with a logarithm! Do it as two separate problems:
[tex]f(x)= x^2(3x+2)^{1/3}(2x-3)^{-3}[/tex] if [tex]x\ge 0[/tex]
[tex]f(x)= -x^2(3x+2)^{1/3}(2x-3)^{-3}[/tex] if x< 0
Use the chain rule and product rule

13. Perform the integration:
(a) [tex]\int(x-1)e^{-x^2+2x}dx[/tex]
The derivative of -x2+ 2x is -2x+2= -2(x-1). Use the substitution u= x2-2x.

(b) [tex]\int\frac{1}{x}e^{-2\log_3(x)}dx[/tex]
Finally a problem involving a lograrithm!

-2 log3(x)= log3(x3)= -2ln(x)/ln(3) so
[tex]e^{-2 log_3(x)}= 3^ln(x)[/tex]. Let u= ln(x).
 
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HallsofIvy said:
This has nothing to do with a logarithm! Do it as two separate problems:
[tex]f(x)= x^2(3x+2)^{1/3}(2x-3)^{-3}[/tex] if [tex]x\ge 0[/tex]
[tex]f(x)= -x^2(3x+2)^{1/3}(2x-3)^{-3}[/tex] if x< 0

? If g(x)=x^2*(3x+2)^(1/3)*(2x-3)^(-3), (so f(x)=|g(x)|), you need to find the regions where g(x) is positive or negative. Not where x is positive or negative. Find the x values where g(x) is 0 or undefined. Those are the endpoints of the intervals where g(x) has uniform sign.
 
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Thanks for the help so far,

trying 13 i get
a. u=-x^2 + 2x
du = -2(x-1)dx
int((x-1)/(-2(x-1)) e^u) su
int( -1/2 e^u du) = -1/2 e^u u' + c = (x-1)(e^(-x^2+2x)) + c

b.
so, I have int(1/x e^(-2lnx/ln3)) dx
u=lnx
du = 1/x dx
int (e^(-2u/ln3)) du = -2/ln3 e^(-2u/ln3) + c = -2/ln3 e^(-2lnx/ln3) + c = -2/ln3 e^(-2 log_3 x) + c

is this correct?
i'm not quite sure where i'd put the absolute value signs, but i know i need them.
 
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myanmar said:
Thanks for the help so far,

trying 13 i get
a. u=-x^2 + 2x
du = -2(x-1)dx
int((x-1)/(-2(x-1)) e^u) su
int( -1/2 e^u du) = -1/2 e^u u' + c = (x-1)(e^(-x^2+2x)) + c /QUOTE]

The last line is wrong. Remember that [itex]\int e^x dx=e^x +c[/itex]
 
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Based on Halls of Ivy / Dick 's help, I get this for 1
[tex]\frac{-(x)(12x^2-26x-27)}{(2x-3)^{-4}(3x+2)^{-2/3}}[/tex] if [tex]{x} > \frac{3}{2}[/tex]or [tex]{x} \leq \frac{-2}{3}[/tex]
[tex]\frac{-(x)(12x^2-26x-27)}{(2x-3)^{-4}(3x+2)^{-2/3}}[/tex] if [tex] \frac{3}{2} < {x} < \frac{-2}{3}[/tex]

is this right?
 
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myanmar said:
Based on Halls of Ivy / Dick 's help, I get this for 1
[tex]\frac{-(x)(12x^2-26x-27)}{(2x-3)^{-4}(3x+2)^{-2/3}}[/tex] if [tex]{x} > \frac{3}{2}[/tex]or [tex]{x} \leq \frac{-2}{3}[/tex]
[tex]\frac{-(x)(12x^2-26x-27)}{(2x-3)^{-4}(3x+2)^{-2/3}}[/tex] if [tex] \frac{3}{2} < {x} < \frac{-2}{3}[/tex]

is this right?

No... There should be a sign difference between the two expressions on different intervals. And that derivative doesn't look right. The powers of the factors in the denominator should be positive. And I don't get the same quadratic you have in the numerator.
 
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Oh, sorry.
I meant

[tex]\frac{-(x)(12x^2-26x-27)}{(2x-3)^{4}(3x+2)^{2/3}}[/tex] if [tex]{x} > \frac{3}{2}[/tex]or [tex]{x} \leq \frac{-2}{3}[/tex]
[tex]\frac{(x)(12x^2-26x-27)}{(2x-3)^{4}(3x+2)^{2/3}}[/tex] if [tex] \frac{3}{2} < {x} < \frac{-2}{3}[/tex]
 
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That's better. But I still don't get the same coefficients you do on the quadratic part.
 

FAQ: Help with log integration/differntiation

What is log integration/differentiation?

Log integration and differentiation are mathematical techniques used to manipulate logarithmic functions. Integration involves finding the antiderivative or integral of a logarithmic function, while differentiation involves finding the derivative of a logarithmic function.

Why is log integration/differentiation important in science?

Log integration and differentiation are essential in science because they allow us to model and analyze real-world phenomena that follow logarithmic patterns. These techniques are used in fields such as physics, chemistry, biology, and economics.

How do I integrate a logarithmic function?

To integrate a logarithmic function, you can use the rule: ∫ln(x)dx = xln(x) - x + C. This rule can be extended to other types of logarithmic functions by using the properties of logarithms and applying the chain rule.

Can log integration/differentiation be used to solve real-world problems?

Yes, log integration/differentiation can be applied to real-world problems such as population growth, radioactive decay, and pH calculations. These techniques help us understand and make predictions about these phenomena.

Are there any common mistakes to avoid when using log integration/differentiation?

One common mistake is forgetting to apply the chain rule when differentiating a logarithmic function. Another mistake is confusing the properties of logarithms, such as ln(ab) = ln(a) + ln(b), when integrating or differentiating a logarithmic expression.

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