Help with nanomolar calculations

In summary, the conversation discusses the calculation of compound X's concentration in various solutions. It starts with the molecular weight of compound X and goes on to calculate the concentration in stock solutions A, B, and C. The initial calculation of 0.000104 mg. being 0.000104 ppm is corrected to be 104 ppt (trillion) and the amount of compound X needed to achieve 100 nanomolar is adjusted to be 32000 nanograms. The conversation concludes with a thank you to Borek for pointing out the mistake.
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sarbot
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Appreciate some backup, checking my calculations to see where I messed up - - it's been 30years since college chemistry:





Let's say I have a compound X which has a molecular weight of 320, so, 320 grams = 1 mole.

Next, I have a 1% stock solution A of that compound X (1 gram dissolved in 100 grams water).

We know that 1 ml = 1 gram for water, and we know that approx. 20 drops are in one ml.

1000 mg. = 1 gram.

20 drops X 100 ml = 2000 drops, or, 1000 milligrams divided by 2000 drops =.5 mg of the compound X in every drop of 1% stock solution A.

Now, put that 1 drop of 1% stock solution A in 240 ml of water to create stock solution B.

That is rather close to a 1/4800th dilution.

Then use 1 drop from this stock dilution B to dissolve into 1000 ml of water which yields .000104 mg of compound X in a whole liter of water (final stock solution C).

We know that 1 mg. per liter is 1 ppm, so 0.000104 mg. would be 0.000104 ppm, close to 0.104 ppb, or 104 nanomolar.

Now, a mole = 6.022 X 10 ^23 molecules of any compound.

A nanomole = 10^-12, essentially that is 1 trillionth, so we can calculate that 10^23 minus 10^12 yields 6.022 X 10^11 molecules in a nanomole.

and 100 nanomoles is 6.022 X 10^13 molecules.

Therefore, in that one liter of water there are better than 60 trillion molecules of compound X floating around in the final stock solution C - - even though the dilution is rather incredible and ultimately results in about only one ten thousandth of a milligram of compound X in the entire liter of final stock solution C.
 
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  • #2
Are you sure that you messed up?
 
  • #3
sarbot said:
so 0.000104 mg. would be 0.000104 ppm, close to 0.104 ppb, or 104 nanomolar.

I would check here.
 
  • #4
I don't know if I made a mistake - - that's why I'm asking for others to check out my calcs.

I cannot see any mistakes in the line that Borek shows.


Anybody up to the challenge ?
 
  • #5
So you suggest that 104 nanograms are 104 nanomoles even if the molar mass is 320 g/mole? :wink:
 
  • #6
Hmmmm,


Yes, this phrase is wrong:

"We know that 1 mg. per liter is 1 ppm, so 0.000104 mg. would be 0.000104 ppm, close to 0.104 ppb, or 104 nanomolar."

I should not confuse molar mass with actual weight.

The phrase above could end with 104 ppt (trillion).

Hmmm, it seems therefore that 100 nanomolar would be 32000 nanograms, since 320 grams = 1 mol.

Now, 32000 nanograms = 0.032 milligrams I believe.

So that is about 307.7 times more compound X needed to achieve 100 nanomolar than I previously calculated - - - I was off by about 307 times . . .

. . . and my assertion that in that one liter of water there are better than 60 trillion molecules of compound X floating around in the final stock solution C does not change - - - it should still be accurate and valid . . .

Thank you Borek.
 
  • #7
I think you were off exactly by the factor of 320, and 307.7 is just effect of rounding. Your previous calculations contained hidden assumption that molar mass is 1, now you use 320.
 

Related to Help with nanomolar calculations

1. How do I convert between nanomolar (nM) and micromolar (μM) concentrations?

To convert between nanomolar and micromolar concentrations, you can use the following formula: 1 μM = 1000 nM. This means that to convert from nM to μM, you need to divide the nM value by 1000. To convert from μM to nM, you need to multiply the μM value by 1000.

2. What is the molar concentration of a solution with a given nanomolar concentration?

To calculate the molar concentration of a solution with a given nanomolar concentration, you need to convert the nM value to M (mol/L). This can be done by dividing the nM value by 1,000,000,000 (10^9). For example, if the nM concentration is 500, the molar concentration would be 0.0000005 M.

3. How do I determine the number of moles in a given volume of a solution with a given nanomolar concentration?

To determine the number of moles in a given volume of a solution with a given nanomolar concentration, you need to first convert the nM concentration to M (mol/L). Then, you can use the formula moles = concentration (mol/L) x volume (L) to calculate the number of moles.

4. How can I dilute a solution to achieve a desired nanomolar concentration?

To dilute a solution to achieve a desired nanomolar concentration, you can use the formula C1V1 = C2V2, where C1 and V1 are the initial concentration and volume, and C2 and V2 are the desired concentration and volume. Simply solve for the volume (V2) of the solution you need to add to the initial volume (V1) to achieve the desired concentration (C2).

5. How does temperature affect nanomolar calculations?

Temperature can affect nanomolar calculations in a few ways. Firstly, it can affect the solubility of compounds, which can impact the accuracy of the concentration measurement. Additionally, temperature can affect the volume of a solution, which can then affect the molar concentration and number of moles present. It is important to ensure that temperature is controlled and accounted for in nanomolar calculations to maintain accuracy.

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