Help with this simple nodal analysis issue, please

In summary, the conversation is about finding the magnitude and polarity of the voltage across each resistor in a circuit diagram. The original poster was having trouble with a specific resistor, R3, and was unsure about a step in the book's solution. Another user suggested converting the current sources to voltage sources for an easier solution and confirmed that the voltage across R3 is indeed 9.71V as stated in the book. The original poster thanked the user for their help.
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PainterGuy
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Hi, :)

1: http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/2256/nodaldiagram1.jpg (diagram of circuit and few other details)
2: http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/5405/nodaldiagram2.jpg (solution)

The book asks "Find the magnitude and polarity of the voltage across each resistor".

I was trying to find the magnitude and polarity across R3 in the circuit diagram (please have a look on the link #1).

The values for V1 and V2 are correct. V1 is -14.9v, and V2 is -12.7v. The magnitude for voltage across R3 I found was 14.8v, but the book says it's 9.71v.

I4 is -3.7A (the assumed direction by me was from left to right of screen as is shown in the scan).

The book also says: V_R3 = V1 + 12 -V2. I don't get this step. Is the book applying KVL here, then how. Please help me with this. Many thanks for the help.

Cheers
 
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You may find it simpler to convert both current sources (and their parallel resistances) to voltage sources (i.e., convert Norton to Thevenin). Then you'll have a single loop with only resistances and voltage sources. Easy peasy.

By the way, using this method I see that the voltage across R3 is indeed 9.71V as your book indicates.
 
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gneill: Many thanks for the reply. Sorry I wasn't able to says thanks in timely manner. As a matter of fact, I have been busy with some stuff lately. I appreciate your help.

Cheers
 
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PainterGuy said:
gneill: Many thanks for the reply. Sorry I wasn't able to says thanks in timely manner. As a matter of fact, I have been busy with some stuff lately. I appreciate your help.

Cheers

No worries. Glad to help.
 
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Hi there,

Thank you for reaching out for help with your nodal analysis issue. Nodal analysis is a fundamental technique in circuit analysis and it can be challenging at times, so it's great that you are seeking clarification.

Looking at the circuit diagram and the solution provided, it seems that the book is using Kirchhoff's Voltage Law (KVL) to find the voltage across R3. KVL states that the sum of the voltage drops in a closed loop must equal the sum of the voltage rises in that same loop.

In this case, the closed loop includes V1, R3, and V2. The book is using KVL to set up the equation V1 + V_R3 - V2 = 0. This is because V1 is a voltage rise (positive) and V2 is a voltage drop (negative), so the total voltage in the loop must equal 0. Then, they rearrange the equation to solve for V_R3, which is the voltage across R3.

To find the magnitude and polarity of the voltage across R3, you can use Ohm's Law: V = IR. In this case, the current through R3 is I4 (which you correctly calculated as -3.7A). So, the voltage across R3 is V_R3 = (-3.7A)(4Ω) = -14.8V. The book's solution of 9.71V may be a typo or a different calculation, but based on the values given in the problem, -14.8V seems to be the correct answer.

I hope this helps clarify the steps and calculations involved in finding the voltage across R3. Keep up the good work with your circuit analysis! Let me know if you have any other questions or need further clarification.

Best,
 

FAQ: Help with this simple nodal analysis issue, please

How do I approach a nodal analysis problem?

To solve a nodal analysis problem, you need to follow a systematic approach. First, identify all the nodes in the circuit and label them. Then, choose a reference node and assign it a voltage of 0. Next, write Kirchhoff's Current Law (KCL) equations at each node, using Ohm's Law to relate the currents to the voltages. Finally, solve the equations simultaneously to find the voltages at each node.

What do I do if I encounter a dependent source in my nodal analysis problem?

If you encounter a dependent source, such as a voltage-controlled voltage source or a current-controlled current source, you can treat it as a regular independent source. However, you will need to use the controlling variable (voltage or current) in your equations instead of a constant value.

How do I know if my nodal analysis solution is correct?

You can verify your nodal analysis solution by checking if all the KCL equations are satisfied and if the voltage drops across each element are consistent with their respective values. Additionally, you can use a simulation tool or a circuit simulator to compare your results.

What is the difference between nodal analysis and mesh analysis?

Nodal analysis is used to find the voltages at different nodes in a circuit, whereas mesh analysis is used to find the currents in different loops of a circuit. Nodal analysis is more suitable for circuits with multiple voltage sources, while mesh analysis is more suitable for circuits with multiple current sources.

Can I use nodal analysis for circuits with capacitors and inductors?

Yes, nodal analysis can be used for circuits with capacitors and inductors. However, you will need to use the transient analysis method, which takes into account the time-varying behavior of these elements. This method involves solving differential equations, and it is beyond the scope of simple nodal analysis.

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