Highest Mountain: Mount Everest & Past Higher Mountains

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In summary, the conversation discusses the possibility of a higher mountain existing in geological history and various methods to determine its height. One possibility is to analyze the O2 isotope composition in limestone, while another is to calculate the maximum possible height using rock strength. It is also mentioned that Everest is only the tallest according to sea level and there may have been taller mountains in the past. The conversation ends with a reference to a scientific paper and the question of what values were used to find a height similar to Everest.
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Mount Everest is the highest mountain according to sea level, but can we know if there has ever been a higher mountain in geological history?
 
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How would you do that? Interesting possibility is the O2 isotope composition in limestone. Since the rayleigh effect strongly depletes heavy isotopes 18O and 2H in precipitation at higher elevations, it may be registered in weathering of silicate rocks to limestone. But then again the dew point temperature is also strongly determining the isotope ratios (d18O and dD), so we have -as just about always- one equation with more than one variables.
 
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You can also work out the maximum possible height of a mountain from rock strength.
It's around [itex]h = 16 \gamma / \rho g[/itex] where [itex] \gamma [/itex] is young's modulus and [itex]\rho[/itex] is density
which gives roughly the same height as Everest.
 
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mgb_phys said:
You can also work out the maximum possible height of a mountain from rock strength.
It's around [itex]h = 16 \gamma / \rho g[/itex] where [itex] \gamma [/itex] is young's modulus and [itex]\rho[/itex] is density
which gives roughly the same height as Everest.

I don't think this really works, because a wider mountain could be taller. Also because Everst is only the tallest according to sea level, and another mountain with its base higher above sea-level would be higher if it were as tall as Everest.

However, you could simply check to see if Everest is currently being thrust up. If it isn't, then it's being worn down, so there was a mountain higher than Everest; Everest!
 
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LURCH said:
I don't think this really works, because a wider mountain could be taller.
Only if it was a specific and unlikely shape (exponential curve - so mass above a certain level is less than the mass below)

Also because Everst is only the tallest according to sea level,
Yes Mauna Kea is slightly higher from it's base (underwater) - but it's only an estimate, the factor depends on the shape of the mountain. It can also behigher if there is somthing to stop the base spreading out.

However, you could simply check to see if Everest is currently being thrust up. If it isn't, then it's being worn down, so there was a mountain higher than Everest; Everest!
Generally the himalayas are in isostatic equilibrium, Everest is being worn down by erosion but the reduced weight means it floats up and maintains roughly the same height.
 
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According the the NGC series "Earth Investigated" there were mountains higher than Mount Everest, I think in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctica" , I don't remember...
 
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mgb_phys said:
You can also work out the maximum possible height of a mountain from rock strength.
It's around [itex]h = 16 \gamma / \rho g[/itex] where [itex] \gamma [/itex] is young's modulus and [itex]\rho[/itex] is density
which gives roughly the same height as Everest.
What values did you use to find roughly the same height as Everest?
 

FAQ: Highest Mountain: Mount Everest & Past Higher Mountains

What is the height of Mount Everest?

The current official height of Mount Everest is 8,848 meters (29,029 feet) above sea level.

How was Mount Everest formed?

Mount Everest was formed over millions of years through the movement of tectonic plates, which caused the Indian subcontinent to collide with the Eurasian plate.

What is the history of climbing Mount Everest?

The first successful ascent of Mount Everest was made in 1953 by Sir Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay. Since then, there have been numerous expeditions and attempts to reach the summit, with varying degrees of success and tragedy.

Has anyone ever climbed higher than Mount Everest?

No, Mount Everest is currently the highest mountain in the world. However, there are other mountains known as "eight-thousanders" that are also very high, such as K2 and Kangchenjunga.

How does the height of Mount Everest affect the human body?

The high altitude and low oxygen levels on Mount Everest can have significant impacts on the human body, such as altitude sickness, hypothermia, and frostbite. Climbers must acclimatize and use supplemental oxygen to successfully reach the summit.

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