How about a SUV with 33mpg CITY.

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In summary, the conversation discusses the use of a hydraulic drive system for vehicles with frequent stops, which can utilize regenerative braking to recharge the reservoir and achieve an efficiency of about 80%. The system uses a diesel engine to maintain reservoir pressure and can potentially use water as the hydraulic fluid with proper materials and cooling. The efficiency of the system is also compared to conventional drivetrains, with gear pumps being slightly less efficient than piston pumps. The cost-effectiveness and potential benefits of this system are also discussed, with some forum members expressing support for its use in vehicles with frequent stops.
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Sure, there's nothing wrong with the concept. However, a well-designed Diesel will beat 33mpg any day with some slightly considerate driving.
 
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I'm curious what the efficiency of the hydraulic drive system is compared to conventional drivetrains?
 
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Virtually every vehicle which runs a route with frequent stops should have such a system, they use regenerative braking. To brake the motors become a pump and recharge the reservoir. They can get about 80% of the vehicles kinetic energy back into the reservoir.

They use a diesel to maintain reservoir pressure, since it is a constant known load they can run it at constant speed at the efficiency sweet spot.

The hydraulic motors have max torque at start up, so once again it makes good sense to use these for stop and go driving.

With proper choice of materials and cooling there is no reason you could not use water as the hydraulic fluid.

Note that this is a pretty old article, the payback time was computed using $1.50 a galleon gas.
 
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This subject was discussed at this forum. See second last post:
http://forums.hydraulicspneumatics.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/8541063911/m/4241052961
Hydraulics could be good if you make frequent stops.
http://forums.hydraulicspneumatics.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/8541063911/m/4721036991
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/06_38/b4001082.htm
As for efficiency it is explained here. He’s using gear pumps but piston are only about 10% better.
http://www.machinerylubrication.com...Next+Challenge+For+the+Maintenance+Department
 
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FAQ: How about a SUV with 33mpg CITY.

How is it possible for an SUV to achieve 33mpg in the city?

The 33mpg city rating is likely achieved through a combination of advanced engine technology, lightweight materials, and aerodynamic design. SUV manufacturers have been investing in these areas to improve fuel efficiency in response to consumer demand for more eco-friendly vehicles.

What factors contribute to the city mpg rating of an SUV?

The city mpg rating of an SUV is influenced by a variety of factors, such as the weight and size of the vehicle, the type of engine and transmission, driving habits, and road conditions. Additionally, features like stop-start technology and regenerative braking can also improve city fuel efficiency.

Is the city mpg rating of an SUV accurate in real-world driving conditions?

The city mpg rating provided by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) is based on standardized tests and may not reflect real-world driving conditions. However, it can serve as a useful comparison tool when comparing different SUV models.

Are there any trade-offs for achieving a high city mpg in an SUV?

In order to achieve a higher city mpg rating, some SUVs may sacrifice power or towing capacity. Additionally, these vehicles may come at a higher cost due to the advanced technology and materials used to improve fuel efficiency.

Can I expect to get 33mpg in the city every time I drive the SUV?

The city mpg rating is an average and does not guarantee that you will achieve 33mpg every time you drive the SUV in the city. Factors such as driving style, traffic, and weather conditions can all affect the actual fuel efficiency of the vehicle.

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