How can -a be equal to (-1)*a?

In summary, the conversation discusses a proof that relies on the use of field axioms to show that a*0 = 0. The discussion revolves around whether adding something to both sides of the equation is allowed, with one person arguing that it is justified through logical axioms and another saying it was not allowed. The conversation also mentions the need to prove the theorem a*0 = 0, and one person presents a challenge to prove the trivial theorem -0=0 from the axioms.
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I will say that this question is coming from a lack of explanation in a classroom, however this particular proof is not homework and is just explanation over a proof that was discussed briefly in class, so I didn't think it belong in the homework section. I'm also not certain it belongs in the calculus section, as it seems more of an algebra concept, but it was in a calculus course.

So we were doing another proof which relied on this one, however I couldn't catch what was being said and the "proof" done for this statement really seemed like it was done only for the special case of a=1.

All of the proofs are supposed to be done using solely the following 10 field axioms:
1) Commutativity of Addition and Multiplication
2) Associativity of Addition and Multiplication
3) Additive and Multiplicative Identities
4) Additive and Multiplicative Inverses
5) Distributive Property
6) Nontrivial assumption of 1 ##\neq## 0

This is fairly easy to do, provided you can add something to both sides of the equation:
$$a*0 = 0$$
$$a*(1+(-1))=0$$
$$a*(1)+a*(-1)=0$$
$$a+(-1)*a=0$$
$$-a+a+(-1)*a=-a$$
$$0+(-1)*a=-a$$
$$(-1)*a=-a$$

which is all well and good, however we were told "we don't know how to add to both sides just yet" and as such can not perform line 5, making this an invalid method. Does anyone know how to do this using absolutely nothing but the axioms listed above?
 
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There is no need to take the proof beyond the fourth line: ##a+-1\cdot a=0##.

That line tells us that ##-1\cdot a## is the additive inverse of ##a## (because they add to zero) and by definition that is written as ##-a##.

By the way, the first line in the proof ##a.0=0## is not an axiom. It is a theorem that needs to be proven.
 
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andrewkirk said:
There is no need to take the proof beyond the fourth line: ##a+-1\cdot a=0##.

That line tells us that ##-1\cdot a## is the additive inverse of ##a## (because they add to zero) and by definition that is written as ##-a##.

By the way, the first line in the proof ##a.0=0## is not an axiom. It is a theorem that needs to be proven.

I know the first line isn't an axiom, but it was something previously stated, and I made it made starting point. However, that answer makes a lot of sense. I'm not sure why this is what was mentioned in class, rather than some make a=1 and some other stuff that didn't quite make sense. Thanks for the insight, that definitely makes things more clear.
 
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andrewkirk said:
There is no need to take the proof beyond the fourth line: ##a+-1\cdot a=0##.

That line tells us that ##-1\cdot a## is the additive inverse of ##a## (because they add to zero) and by definition that is written as ##-a##.

By the way, the first line in the proof ##a.0=0## is not an axiom. It is a theorem that needs to be proven.

Though I guess technically we were trying to prove a*0=0 using the at then unproven -a=(-1)*a, so how could you start the proof without beginning at a*0=0? Since you mentioned it not being an axiom.
 
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I would use it, but first prove it:
$$0\cdot a=(0+0)\cdot a = 0\cdot a + 0\cdot a$$
then add ##-0\cdot a## to both sides.

The qualm over not using adding to both sides is unnecessary, because the justification for that is based solely on fundamental logic, not on any mathematical axioms or even on the definition of '+', viz:
  1. ##a=a## [Logical axiom of equality]
  2. ##c+d = c+d## [substituting ##c+d## for all occurrences of ##a## in line 1, using the logical axiom of specification]
  3. ##b=d## [hypothesis to open conditional proof]
  4. ##c+b=c+d## [substituting ##b## for the first ##d## in line 2, using the logical axiom of substitution together with line 3]
  5. ##(b=d)\to (c+b=c+d)## [conclusion from closing conditional proof]
The proof works just as well if we replace '+' by ##\times## or in fact any binary function.
 
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andrewkirk said:
I would use it, but first prove it:
$$0\cdot a=(0+0)\cdot a = 0\cdot a + 0\cdot a$$
then add ##-0\cdot a## to both sides.

The qualm over not using adding to both sides is unnecessary, because the justification for that is based solely on fundamental logic, not on any mathematical axioms or even on the definition of '+', viz:
  1. ##a=a## [Logical axiom of equality]
  2. ##c+d = c+d## [substituting ##c+d## for all occurrences of ##a## in line 1, using the logical axiom of specification]
  3. ##b=d## [hypothesis to open conditional proof]
  4. ##c+b=c+d## [substituting ##b## for the first ##d## in line 2, using the logical axiom of substitution together with line 3]
  5. ##(b=d)\to (c+b=c+d)## [conclusion from closing conditional proof]
The proof works just as well if we replace '+' by ##\times## or in fact any binary function.

Whether it justified on fundamental logic or not, we were still told that we couldn't use it, and that's where I was running into problems.
 
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andrewkirk said:
then add ##-0\cdot a## to both sides
Shouldn't that be ##-(0\cdot a)##?
That is, the additive inverse of whatever the as yet unknown ##0\cdot a## is?
And not the as yet unknown additive inverse of 0 times a?

(As a challenge to the OP, can we prove the trivial theorem ##-0=0## from the axioms?)
 

FAQ: How can -a be equal to (-1)*a?

How do you prove that -a is equal to (-1)*a?

To show that -a is equal to (-1)*a, we use the distributive property of multiplication over addition. This property states that a*(b+c) = a*b + a*c. We can apply this property to the equation -a = (-1)*a by multiplying both sides by (-1). This gives us (-1)*(-a) = (-1)*((-1)*a), which simplifies to a = (-1)*a.

Why is it important to prove that -a is equal to (-1)*a?

Proving that -a is equal to (-1)*a is important because it allows us to perform operations on negative numbers using the rules of algebra. This is especially useful in solving equations and simplifying expressions involving negative numbers.

Can you provide an example of how to show that -a is equal to (-1)*a?

Sure, let's take the equation -3 = (-1)*3. We can rewrite this as (-1)*(-3) = (-1)*((-1)*3). By using the distributive property, we get 3 = (-1)*(-1)*3. Since (-1)*(-1) is equal to 1, we are left with 3 = 1*3, which simplifies to 3 = 3. This proves that -3 is indeed equal to (-1)*3.

What is the significance of the negative sign in front of a number?

The negative sign in front of a number indicates that the number is less than zero. It is also used to denote the opposite or additive inverse of a number. For example, -3 is the opposite of 3 and is equal to (-1)*3.

Is it possible for -a to be equal to a?

No, it is not possible for -a to be equal to a. This is because the negative sign indicates the opposite of a number, so -a will always be the opposite of a and therefore cannot be equal to a.

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